Motorglider Endorsement

On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:55:37 PM UTC-7, lynn wrote:
I will be taking delivery on a Mini LAK 13.5 electric self launch next year and need to get the required endorsement. I am located in Western Washington state. Any instructors nearby? L. Wyman

I think I was misunderstood. I need the endorsement before taking delivery. I would like to find an authorized endorser with access to a two-place motor glider. My Mini LAK is a single seater and will not be used to get the endorsement.

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 9:52:34 PM UTC-6, lynn wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:55:37 PM UTC-7, lynn wrote:
I will be taking delivery on a Mini LAK 13.5 electric self launch next year and need to get the required endorsement. I am located in Western Washington state. Any instructors nearby? L. Wyman

I think I was misunderstood. I need the endorsement before taking delivery. I would like to find an authorized endorser with access to a two-place motor glider. My Mini LAK is a single seater and will not be used to get the endorsement.

You still may need a CFI-G sign-off for that specific glider for insurance purposes, even after the self-launch endorsement.

Frank

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 9:48:34 PM UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 9:52:34 PM UTC-6, lynn wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:55:37 PM UTC-7, lynn wrote:
I will be taking delivery on a Mini LAK 13.5 electric self launch next year and need to get the required endorsement. I am located in Western Washington state. Any instructors nearby? L. Wyman

I think I was misunderstood. I need the endorsement before taking delivery. I would like to find an authorized endorser with access to a two-place motor glider. My Mini LAK is a single seater and will not be used to get the endorsement.

You still may need a CFI-G sign-off for that specific glider for insurance purposes, even after the self-launch endorsement.

Frank
Yes, certainly will do that--several CFI-Gs here. Thanks.

I have alwaysÂ* wondered about the usefulness of having someone who's
never seen a particular make/model of glider "sign me off" as competent
to fly it.



On 9/4/2017 10:44 AM, lynn wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 9:48:34 PM UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 9:52:34 PM UTC-6, lynn wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:55:37 PM UTC-7, lynn wrote:
I will be taking delivery on a Mini LAK 13.5 electric self launch next year and need to get the required endorsement. I am located in Western Washington state. Any instructors nearby? L. Wyman
I think I was misunderstood. I need the endorsement before taking delivery. I would like to find an authorized endorser with access to a two-place motor glider. My Mini LAK is a single seater and will not be used to get the endorsement.
You still may need a CFI-G sign-off for that specific glider for insurance purposes, even after the self-launch endorsement.

Frank
Yes, certainly will do that--several CFI-Gs here. Thanks.

--
Dan, 5J

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:06:47 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
I have alwaysÂ* wondered about the usefulness of having someone who's
never seen a particular make/model of glider "sign me off" as competent
to fly it.

Years ago I got a new-to-me glider model, and the insurance required a "cockpit checkout". I asked a CFIG for that, and after some futzing around the cockpit with me he wrote in my logbook that he checked the cockpit and found the glider airworthy. :-)

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 12:05:22 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Years ago I got a new-to-me glider model, and the insurance required a "cockpit checkout".
I asked a CFIG for that, and after some futzing around the cockpit with me he wrote in my
logbook that he checked the cockpit and found the glider airworthy. :-)

The insurance company would like some confirmation that the new pilot is familiar with the POH, and the simplest way is to ask for a CFIG endorsement. You and the instructor should have gone over parts of the POH and perhaps the W&B to confirm you understand the aircraft and its systems as well as making sure it's airworthy. If the instructor knows nothing about this glider, an experienced pilot can be enlisted to provide a brief which the instructor supervises.

I'm sure even Dan would like to see me get briefed on his Stemme before tossing me the keys ;-)

5Z

I see my posting was not clear. My story tried to illustrate that a "cockpit checkout" is not well defined, and in the case of that specific CFIG, was completely misunderstood. For a useful checkout, a non-CFI pilot who is well acquainted with the model can probably do a better job than a CFI who is not.

When I got my first glider, which was an HP-14, single-seater with flaps and no spoilers, I got checked out by a CFIG in a *Cessna*, which was appropriate, since that allowed dual practice with flaps. I was also used to flying the Cessna at that time, so could demonstrate knowledge and proficiency in the use of flaps. I wonder if a powered plane (with a suitably rated CFIG) could be used for dual training for the motorglider endorsement, if a 2-seat motorglider is not available?

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 8:52:34 PM UTC-7, lynn wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:55:37 PM UTC-7, lynn wrote:
I will be taking delivery on a Mini LAK 13.5 electric self launch next year and need to get the required endorsement. I am located in Western Washington state. Any instructors nearby? L. Wyman

I think I was misunderstood. I need the endorsement before taking delivery. I would like to find an authorized endorser with access to a two-place motor glider. My Mini LAK is a single seater and will not be used to get the endorsement.

Contact Rex Mayes at Williams Soaring. He has an ASG-32mi.

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 11:18:11 PM UTC-7, MN50 wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 8:52:34 PM UTC-7, lynn wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:55:37 PM UTC-7, lynn wrote:
I will be taking delivery on a Mini LAK 13.5 electric self launch next year and need to get the required endorsement. I am located in Western Washington state. Any instructors nearby? L. Wyman

I think I was misunderstood. I need the endorsement before taking delivery. I would like to find an authorized endorser with access to a two-place motor glider. My Mini LAK is a single seater and will not be used to get the endorsement.

Contact Rex Mayes at Williams Soaring. He has an ASG-32mi.

Thank you for the info. I will contact him shortly.

Colin Gyenes at McMinneville has a Spotavia RF-5B is number is: 503.857.8021