Why didn't GWB join the U.S. Air Force ?

Subject: Why didn't GWB join the U.S. Air Force ?
From: (WalterM140)
Date: 7/11/2004 10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

All that truly matters is that the man wants to fight NOW.

-He- dosn't want to fight now. He wants others to do it. And not those he
called his base, either, "the haves, and the have mores". He wants other
people to fight and do something he didn't do -- stay the course.

Further, Bush's leadership in the war has been disastrously ineffective.

The intelligence community is in a shambles, the Military is overstretched,
the
invasion of Iraq was a detour in the war on Terror -- we are less safe now
than
we were on 9/11. That was a strategic failure -- the worst strategic
blunder
in living memory per James Webb. His people have made every wrong
operational
decision in the invasion of Iraq -- **** off the international community,
disband the Iraqi army, send the Ba'athists home, not have enough US troops
for
an invasion at all -- the list goes on.

George Bush has been a disastrous failure as commander in chief of the armed
forces.

Walt



Clearly the worst president in American history.

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
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I was not going to chime in on this, but:

Further, Bush's leadership in the war has been disastrously ineffective.

Lets see how ineffective:
Sadaam is in jail and awaiting trial,
his country now has the right to protest, with out fear of being executed, they
have electricity, running water, hospitals with enough supplies to operate,
schools. There are some fighting still, but read about what happened in Germany
after WWII, there were still some hold outs fights for another 3 yrs AFTER the
war ended.

Bin Ladin used to run a country, now he is on the run and living in a cave,
We have not been attacked since 9/11, as we are hitting them where they live.

at least Bush has used the military for it's intended mission, and not as a
"meal on wheels" as the last one.

Art,
I used to read what you had to say bout your service in WWII and respect what
you did, however, your attacks on Bush, have gone too far. He served, he flew,
The F-102 was not a easy plane to fly. unlike kerry, who admitted he committed
war crimes, aided the enemy, and claimed he was injured in combat, but never
missed a day due to those so called wounds that were treated with band-aids (
reminds me of Frank Burns of M*A*S*H, who applied for a Purple Heart after
getting hit with shell fragments, except it was he forgot to say on the report
it was egg shell fragments) .

Bush acted after the attacks on 9/11, kerry wanted to wait and get the UN
involved. kerry voted against every weapons system that the military needed and
has been using in Iraq. if he was so proud of his service, why did he try and
keep our troops from having the best equipment ? You would think, that anyone
that had been in combat, would know what it is like and want our troops to have
what is needed.


Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

Lets see how ineffective:
Sadaam is in jail and awaiting trial,

Not worth 7,000 US casulaties, including almost 900 KIA.

his country now has the right to protest, with out fear of being executed,
they
have electricity, running water, hospitals with enough supplies to operate,

Ditto above.

There are some fighting still, but read about what happened in Germany
after WWII, there were still some hold outs fights for another 3 yrs AFTER
the
war ended.

Not like this. If you can cite 5 US KIA in one day in Germany in 1948 (we had
5 KIA yesterday in Iraq), I'd like to see it. If you can show that Nazi
diehards were able to kill the head of the German government, as the insurgents
did a few weeks ago, throw that in.

Bin Ladin used to run a country, now he is on the run and living in a cave,

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13

"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13

On 9/11 Bin Laden was operating in a remote area along the Afghan/Paki border.

Right now, Bin Laden was operating in a remote area along the Afghan/Paki
border.


We have not been attacked since 9/11, as we are hitting them where they live.


Former SecNav Lehman, one of the 9/11 commissioners said a couple of weeks ago
that our intel community cannot tell the difference between a bike wreck and a
train wreck.

We're less safe now than we were on 9/11.

at least Bush has used the military for it's intended mission, and not as a
"meal on wheels" as the last one.

He's detroying the military. At least, that's what was published recently in
the Naval Preceedings.

Art,
I used to read what you had to say bout your service in WWII and respect what
you did, however, your attacks on Bush, have gone too far. He served, he
flew,
The F-102 was not a easy plane to fly. unlike kerry, who admitted he
committed
war crimes, aided the enemy, and claimed he was injured in combat, but never
missed a day due to those so called wounds that were treated with band-aids (
reminds me of Frank Burns of M*A*S*H, who applied for a Purple Heart after
getting hit with shell fragments, except it was he forgot to say on the
report
it was egg shell fragments) .

Bush acted after the attacks on 9/11, kerry wanted to wait and get the UN
involved. kerry voted against every weapons system that the military needed
and
has been using in Iraq. if he was so proud of his service, why did he try and
keep our troops from having the best equipment ? You would think, that anyone
that had been in combat, would know what it is like and want our troops to
have
what is needed.


Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA


You don't have the faintest idea of what you are talking about.

Walt

Subject: Why didn't GWB join the U.S. Air Force ?
From: (WalterM140)
Date: 7/11/2004 2:58 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Lets see how ineffective:
Sadaam is in jail and awaiting trial,

Not worth 7,000 US casulaties, including almost 900 KIA.

his country now has the right to protest, with out fear of being executed,
they
have electricity, running water, hospitals with enough supplies to operate,

Ditto above.

There are some fighting still, but read about what happened in Germany
after WWII, there were still some hold outs fights for another 3 yrs AFTER
the
war ended.

Not like this. If you can cite 5 US KIA in one day in Germany in 1948 (we
had
5 KIA yesterday in Iraq), I'd like to see it. If you can show that Nazi
diehards were able to kill the head of the German government, as the
insurgents
did a few weeks ago, throw that in.

Nah, the head of the German government took his own life.




Former SecNav Lehman, one of the 9/11 commissioners said a couple of weeks
ago
that our intel community cannot tell the difference between a bike wreck and
a
train wreck.

Yeah and who took down the intel community in the last decade and what senator
from Massachusetts voted in favor of those cuts?

We're less safe now than we were on 9/11.

On what measure or basis?




at least Bush has used the military for it's intended mission, and not as a
"meal on wheels" as the last one.

He's detroying the military. At least, that's what was published recently in
the Naval Preceedings.

Again, sir just ask people in the military instead of reading about it. The
Navy is ****ed because they can't have all the aircraft carriers they want. Go
ahead, ask the grunts and ask them how they feel.

"WalterM140" wrote in message
...

Not worth 7,000 US casulaties, including almost 900 KIA.


You think light casualties are a bad thing? Are you sure you were a marine?
You don't sound like you have any military experience at all.

From: (ArtKramr)



Clearly the worst president in American history.

Arthur Kramer

I assume you have done detailed research on each and every president to come up
with that?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Clearly the worst president in American history.

For certain. Just because the economy is improving, jobs are increasing, and
we have had no major attackes in our corders since 9/11, clearly he isn't doing
his job well.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...

Clearly the worst president in American history.


You're thinking of his predecessor.