Train Wreck

Lol. Who is whining now? This thread is such dramatic BS. I was able to tell everyone what was said before I even looked two days ago. This is all very, very simple...

— voters lied to help their buddy —
— a narrative (false) was formed —
— the process was gamed and manipulated to a choice a desired outcome —

The “storm� was created when the SSA good old boys got together and used their latests failure (totally UNtransparent team selection process) to obviously game the us team selection.

Lying 🤥 is unacceptable (in any situation). Lying (thru silence or words) is shameful. And these people have clearly used the selection process opportunity to lie. It’s that simple.

These data are available (within seconds) to all of us. Why the secret? It should be carefully/immediately looked into by comparing objective facts with the responses and votes. Not at the Reno BOD meeting but today. Are those responses sensible or factual or simply sour grapes. Do the responses make sense? Was the team committee doing their job in policing out non-sensible input and votes? Why not?

Not lying? THEN SHOW US ALL THE VOTES AND COMMENTS Pete “the GOB hand puppet� and team selection committee.

Voters, don’t wait for Pete, tell us how and why you voted (cross checked with the actual poll response when we wrestle them loose). What are you afraid of? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? RE-WRITING THE RESPONSES PERHAPS? Circling the wagons? #morelies?

A transparent US Team selection process? Honesty? ROTFL.

(SSA Good Old Boy) “Elite� pilots of the highest moral character who “carefully and thoughtfully crafted their responses?� You should be proud of these responses, right? Then why not share them ALL publicly and immediately (weeks ago). And if I’m wrong, why not share it now?

#takingthe5th

Sean Murphy has already (stupidly) proven the votes where deeply personally biased. One) by stating his deceitful and false justification and Two) by stating he knows the narrative formed by many voters... “we decided you are not fast without markers.�

This current US Team is, CLEARLY, at least partially, Illegitimate. ILLEGITIMATE.

Team Slots were STOLEN (as Gina and others have pointed out). Is Gina wrong? Prove it.

Gina is spot on. This theft is factual and obvious to anyone outside the good old boy circle.

The truly disgraceful act here is allowing this STOLEN selection to stand. The same thing happened to Dave Leonard as happened to me. This FRAUD has to be ended NOW, permanently because the good old boys have proven now TWICE (and countless other times elsewhere) that they cannot be trusted to be objective and fair in such matters.

Many are truly ashamed of their actions here in this process. A total shame. Disgusting.

https://youtu.be/sgYH64y8DgU

On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 8:14:03 AM UTC-7, Sean Fidler wrote:
Lol. Who is whining now? This thread is such dramatic BS. I was able to tell everyone what was said before I even looked two days ago. This is all very, very simple...

— voters lied to help their buddy —
— a narrative (false) was formed —
— the process was gamed and manipulated to a choice a desired outcome —

The “storm� was created when the SSA good old boys got together and used their latests failure (totally UNtransparent team selection process) to obviously game the us team selection.

Lying 🤥 is unacceptable (in any situation). Lying (thru silence or words) is shameful. And these people have clearly used the selection process opportunity to lie. It’s that simple.

These data are available (within seconds) to all of us. Why the secret? It should be carefully/immediately looked into by comparing objective facts with the responses and votes. Not at the Reno BOD meeting but today. Are those responses sensible or factual or simply sour grapes. Do the responses make sense? Was the team committee doing their job in policing out non-sensible input and votes? Why not?

Not lying? THEN SHOW US ALL THE VOTES AND COMMENTS Pete “the GOB hand puppet� and team selection committee.

Voters, don’t wait for Pete, tell us how and why you voted (cross checked with the actual poll response when we wrestle them loose). What are you afraid of? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? RE-WRITING THE RESPONSES PERHAPS? Circling the wagons? #morelies?

A transparent US Team selection process? Honesty? ROTFL.

(SSA Good Old Boy) “Elite� pilots of the highest moral character who “carefully and thoughtfully crafted their responses?� You should be proud of these responses, right? Then why not share them ALL publicly and immediately (weeks ago). And if I’m wrong, why not share it now?

#takingthe5th

Sean Murphy has already (stupidly) proven the votes where deeply personally biased. One) by stating his deceitful and false justification and Two) by stating he knows the narrative formed by many voters... “we decided you are not fast without markers.�

This current US Team is, CLEARLY, at least partially, Illegitimate. ILLEGITIMATE.

Team Slots were STOLEN (as Gina and others have pointed out). Is Gina wrong? Prove it.

Gina is spot on. This theft is factual and obvious to anyone outside the good old boy circle.

The truly disgraceful act here is allowing this STOLEN selection to stand.. The same thing happened to Dave Leonard as happened to me. This FRAUD has to be ended NOW, permanently because the good old boys have proven now TWICE (and countless other times elsewhere) that they cannot be trusted to be objective and fair in such matters.

Many are truly ashamed of their actions here in this process. A total shame. Disgusting.

https://youtu.be/sgYH64y8DgU

Sean, the original topic of this thread wasn't if you should be picked for the 18 meter team or not, but rather, if your social media presence has any effect on those team selections. Can anyone trust you to fly cooperatively in an international team competition? How can they possibly trust you to use team strategy and tactics? I would personally make the reasonable assumption based on your facebook, website, and youtube accounts that the instant you find it in your personal best interest you would fly to the detriment of the team. Would you like to address those issues? The selection process issue is going on in a different thread. I see you have not posted there, nor to you let anyone post anything to your social media accounts. The authoritarian divide and conquer game you are playing is obvious, right down to the petty names you give to all of the pilots you don't like. How did you come up with all of it, gee hard to imagine. Would you fly with you? Nope. I wouldn't either and I'd do everything in my power to keep you off the team. Others, likely few, justifiably feel differently. What say you about your personal website?

https://seanfidler.com/

https://www.facebook.com/SeanTiff7T/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2N...qpRuwIHczpkR7A

Decorum aside there is enough BS to suspect Sean might be right. I say for the next round of selection we let Sean pick the whole team. What's the worst that could happen, we lose to the Europeans again?
On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 12:58:28 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 8:14:03 AM UTC-7, Sean Fidler wrote:
Lol. Who is whining now? This thread is such dramatic BS. I was able to tell everyone what was said before I even looked two days ago. This is all very, very simple...

— voters lied to help their buddy —
— a narrative (false) was formed —
— the process was gamed and manipulated to a choice a desired outcome —

The “storm� was created when the SSA good old boys got together and used their latests failure (totally UNtransparent team selection process) to obviously game the us team selection.

Lying 🤥 is unacceptable (in any situation). Lying (thru silence or words) is shameful. And these people have clearly used the selection process opportunity to lie. It’s that simple.

These data are available (within seconds) to all of us. Why the secret? It should be carefully/immediately looked into by comparing objective facts with the responses and votes. Not at the Reno BOD meeting but today. Are those responses sensible or factual or simply sour grapes. Do the responses make sense? Was the team committee doing their job in policing out non-sensible input and votes? Why not?

Not lying? THEN SHOW US ALL THE VOTES AND COMMENTS Pete “the GOB hand puppet� and team selection committee.

Voters, don’t wait for Pete, tell us how and why you voted (cross checked with the actual poll response when we wrestle them loose). What are you afraid of? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? RE-WRITING THE RESPONSES PERHAPS? Circling the wagons? #morelies?

A transparent US Team selection process? Honesty? ROTFL.

(SSA Good Old Boy) “Elite� pilots of the highest moral character who “carefully and thoughtfully crafted their responses?� You should be proud of these responses, right? Then why not share them ALL publicly and immediately (weeks ago). And if I’m wrong, why not share it now?

#takingthe5th

Sean Murphy has already (stupidly) proven the votes where deeply personally biased. One) by stating his deceitful and false justification and Two) by stating he knows the narrative formed by many voters... “we decided you are not fast without markers.�

This current US Team is, CLEARLY, at least partially, Illegitimate. ILLEGITIMATE.

Team Slots were STOLEN (as Gina and others have pointed out). Is Gina wrong? Prove it.

Gina is spot on. This theft is factual and obvious to anyone outside the good old boy circle.

The truly disgraceful act here is allowing this STOLEN selection to stand. The same thing happened to Dave Leonard as happened to me. This FRAUD has to be ended NOW, permanently because the good old boys have proven now TWICE (and countless other times elsewhere) that they cannot be trusted to be objective and fair in such matters.

Many are truly ashamed of their actions here in this process. A total shame. Disgusting.

https://youtu.be/sgYH64y8DgU

Sean, the original topic of this thread wasn't if you should be picked for the 18 meter team or not, but rather, if your social media presence has any effect on those team selections. Can anyone trust you to fly cooperatively in an international team competition? How can they possibly trust you to use team strategy and tactics? I would personally make the reasonable assumption based on your facebook, website, and youtube accounts that the instant you find it in your personal best interest you would fly to the detriment of the team. Would you like to address those issues? The selection process issue is going on in a different thread. I see you have not posted there, nor to you let anyone post anything to your social media accounts. The authoritarian divide and conquer game you are playing is obvious, right down to the petty names you give to all of the pilots you don't like. How did you come up with all of it, gee hard to imagine. Would you fly with you? Nope. I wouldn't either and I'd do everything in my power to keep you off the team. Others, likely few, justifiably feel differently. What say you about your personal website?

https://seanfidler.com/

https://www.facebook.com/SeanTiff7T/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2N...qpRuwIHczpkR7A

Well, that does it. I had been giving Sean the benefit of the doubt, as his behavior in person and as a pilot has, in my presence at least, always been unobjectionable.

But now, a prospective US team member has slandered, in public and in writing, pretty much everyone who might be a team mate, a team captain, meteorologist or other support person; the entire US team committee, and most of the people (including me) who might have at one point been interested in contributing money to send him off to the WGC. (The "good old boy network" pays a lot of bills and does a huge amount of volunteer work.)

How can someone who has done this ever be part of a team?

Among others, a few quotes:
"voters lied"
"the SSA good old boys [USTC, RC] got together and used...team selection process...to obviously game the us team selection."
"Was the team committee doing their job in policing out non-sensible input and votes?"

Savor that. The USTC is now supposed to filter out non-sensible votes?

"Pete “the GOB hand puppet� " RE-WRITING THE RESPONSES" Sean Murphy.. his deceitful and false "

Well, this prospective team member can't count on any help from Pete or Sean Murphy, in any capacity going forward.

"This current US Team is, CLEARLY, at least partially, Illegitimate. ILLEGITIMATE. Team Slots were STOLEN"

Make that the whole US team. Or anyone on the USTC. By this act, it seems to me that Sean has written himself off the US TEAM pretty much for good.

John Cochrane