Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.

Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: (BUFDRVR)
Date: 7/12/2004 3:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
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ArtKramr wrote:

You must be unusually brilliant.

Hardly.

Do you know gat operation Casy Jones was in WW
II?

I plead ignorance on that one. Operation Market Garden and of course Overlord
are the only named operations of WWII I know off the top of my cranium.


BUFDRVR


The day the war ended we fitted our Marauders with 10X10 Fairschild mapping
cameras and started flying mapping missions deep into Russian territory with
the cameras rolling.. That was Operation Casey Jones. In all thse years I have
never heard a single reference to it by any historian or in any text. It was a
secret of the cold war that was never revealed. I piled up the hours, but
couldn't call them combat hours so I stand pat with my 250 out of 1100..For
everyone who thinks they can read a book and all will be revealed, forget it.
There is much that will never be revealed in books. If those who lived it never
reveal it, it will be lost to history forever


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr wrote:

Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: (BUFDRVR)
Date: 7/12/2004 3:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

ArtKramr wrote:

You must be unusually brilliant.

Hardly.

Do you know gat operation Casy Jones was in WW
II?

I plead ignorance on that one. Operation Market Garden and of course Overlord
are the only named operations of WWII I know off the top of my cranium.


BUFDRVR


The day the war ended we fitted our Marauders with 10X10 Fairschild mapping
cameras and started flying mapping missions deep into Russian territory with
the cameras rolling.. That was Operation Casey Jones. In all thse years I have
never heard a single reference to it by any historian or in any text. It was a
secret of the cold war that was never revealed. I piled up the hours, but
couldn't call them combat hours so I stand pat with my 250 out of 1100..For
everyone who thinks they can read a book and all will be revealed, forget it.
There is much that will never be revealed in books. If those who lived it never
reveal it, it will be lost to history forever

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


Art,

Sounds like you've been reading the discussion on the Army/Airforce
Discussion Board.

Here is an extract from a recent posting:

"Yes, the summer 1945 overflight of Europe was called "Operation Casey
Jones." This mission was a mapping project, the overflight of "Occupied
Germany and territories occupied by Germany" to update maps. Thus the
B-17s were stripped of armament to gain altitude for their 'straight
runs' for mapping.

This is what is said in the released documents in the USAF archives in
1979."

Dave

ArtKramr wrote:

The day the war ended we fitted our Marauders with 10X10 Fairschild mapping
cameras and started flying mapping missions deep into Russian territory with
the cameras rolling.. That was Operation Casey Jones. In all thse years I have
never heard a single reference to it by any historian or in any text. It was a
secret of the cold war that was never revealed.

Now that's interesting, Art -- just the sort of input this newsgroup needs.


Jack

Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: Jack
Date: 7/13/2004 9:44 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

ArtKramr wrote:

The day the war ended we fitted our Marauders with 10X10 Fairschild mapping
cameras and started flying mapping missions deep into Russian territory
with
the cameras rolling.. That was Operation Casey Jones. In all thse years I
have
never heard a single reference to it by any historian or in any text. It
was a
secret of the cold war that was never revealed.

Now that's interesting, Art -- just the sort of input this newsgroup needs.


Jack


Yeah. We ought to get back to military aviation.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:47:57 +0000, ArtKramr wrote:

[snip]

Yeah. We ought to get back to military aviation.

OK.
I can't imagine our friends in the Soviet Air Force were all that
happy about you folks swanning around their area of influence
taking pictures and to put it mildly they were not ones for observing
proprieties when they felt their interests needed protecting.
Did they ever try to seriously interfere with the effrot?

IBM

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Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: "ian maclure"
Date: 7/13/2004 2:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:47:57 +0000, ArtKramr wrote:

[snip]

Yeah. We ought to get back to military aviation.

OK.
I can't imagine our friends in the Soviet Air Force were all that
happy about you folks swanning around their area of influence
taking pictures and to put it mildly they were not ones for observing
proprieties when they felt their interests needed protecting.
Did they ever try to seriously interfere with the effrot?

IBM


Nope. Never saw a Russian plane in the aior even once. I give thanks for little
favors.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:27:30 +0000, ArtKramr wrote:

[snip]

Nope. Never saw a Russian plane in the aior even once. I give thanks for little
favors.

Odd. Of course it might have been they hadn't decided how
dog in the manger they wanted to be at that point.

IBM

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