Seminole Lake Accident

On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 10:04:54 AM UTC-5, Rich Owen wrote:
Uli,

The pilot over corrected a line up issue on the 200 ft wide runway. Wind was below 5 mph out of the southwest. The aircraft was moving to the right fairly rapidly and the right wing contacted the hangar which spun the glider around 180 degrees. The left wing then contacted a support post in the same hangar. The FAA has concluded their investigation and a report was sent to the NTSB. Thought the New Year would finally be the year where people looked at the good in the world and not shouting from the pulpits behind anonymous cloaks of invisibility.

Rich,
Happy New Year to you, too.
Thanks for the enlightenment! You are completely missing the point of my comment. In my paying job as well as in the function I hold in our club, I am always interested in answering the 'how did that happen?' question!
Did I judge the ability or performance of the pilot? Did I say anything negative about him/her? As I stated initially, there had to be more to that story since things didn't add up from the info that was provided and there was. Now it makes sense. There is no anonymous cloak of invisibility here; I am using my real name and not some made-up junk. Accidents/incidents like this need to be discussed as a learning opportunity; nothing more, nothing less!
Uli
'AS'

Rich was not referring to you Uli, calm down.
Eat a cookie.

R

On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 12:10:38 PM UTC-6, AS wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 10:04:54 AM UTC-5, Rich Owen wrote:
Uli,

The pilot over corrected a line up issue on the 200 ft wide runway. Wind was below 5 mph out of the southwest. The aircraft was moving to the right fairly rapidly and the right wing contacted the hangar which spun the glider around 180 degrees. The left wing then contacted a support post in the same hangar. The FAA has concluded their investigation and a report was sent to the NTSB. Thought the New Year would finally be the year where people looked at the good in the world and not shouting from the pulpits behind anonymous cloaks of invisibility.

Rich,
Happy New Year to you, too.
Thanks for the enlightenment! You are completely missing the point of my comment. In my paying job as well as in the function I hold in our club, I am always interested in answering the 'how did that happen?' question!
Did I judge the ability or performance of the pilot? Did I say anything negative about him/her? As I stated initially, there had to be more to that story since things didn't add up from the info that was provided and there was. Now it makes sense. There is no anonymous cloak of invisibility here; I am using my real name and not some made-up junk. Accidents/incidents like this need to be discussed as a learning opportunity; nothing more, nothing less!
Uli
'AS'

Hi Uli,

Rich's comment about anonymous posting was referring to the anonymous poster " who started off the thread.

On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 5:14:52 PM UTC-5, WB wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 12:10:38 PM UTC-6, AS wrote:
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 10:04:54 AM UTC-5, Rich Owen wrote:
Uli,

The pilot over corrected a line up issue on the 200 ft wide runway. Wind was below 5 mph out of the southwest. The aircraft was moving to the right fairly rapidly and the right wing contacted the hangar which spun the glider around 180 degrees. The left wing then contacted a support post in the same hangar. The FAA has concluded their investigation and a report was sent to the NTSB. Thought the New Year would finally be the year where people looked at the good in the world and not shouting from the pulpits behind anonymous cloaks of invisibility.

Rich,
Happy New Year to you, too.
Thanks for the enlightenment! You are completely missing the point of my comment. In my paying job as well as in the function I hold in our club, I am always interested in answering the 'how did that happen?' question!
Did I judge the ability or performance of the pilot? Did I say anything negative about him/her? As I stated initially, there had to be more to that story since things didn't add up from the info that was provided and there was. Now it makes sense. There is no anonymous cloak of invisibility here; I am using my real name and not some made-up junk. Accidents/incidents like this need to be discussed as a learning opportunity; nothing more, nothing less!
Uli
'AS'

Hi Uli,

Rich's comment about anonymous posting was referring to the anonymous poster " who started off the thread.

Ahh - got it! Going for another cookie ....
Uli

You,

Still I apologize because my unfortunate lapse of civility was misinterpreted. Yes I was talking about ASW-20. I have enjoyed my relationships in the glider community. Flying and sometimes racing sailplanes brings me a lot of joy. Even if some non glider pilots want to throw mud. The act of flying doesn’t necessarily make you a pilot. BTW, the young pilot who did have the accident is continuing with their training. They are very determined and we feel certain a rating is in the near future.
Sincerely,
Rich

On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 6:59:22 AM UTC-5, Rich Owen wrote:
...the young pilot who did have the accident is continuing with their training.

And will never again be permitted to participate in hangar flying.

On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 6:59:22 AM UTC-5, Rich Owen wrote:
...the young pilot who did have the accident is continuing with their
training.


I know at least three instructors who wrote off a glider while training.

I do remember an outlanding in an L-33 (the second time I flew it) where I
spent
more time than I should have figuring out how to use the brake.

"...he will never be allowed any more hanger flying..."
LOL, now that's a good one I'll remember.
Dan

Dave you owe me a new keyboard...

On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 6:59:22 AM UTC-5, Rich Owen wrote:
You,

Still I apologize because my unfortunate lapse of civility was misinterpreted. Yes I was talking about ASW-20. I have enjoyed my relationships in the glider community. Flying and sometimes racing sailplanes brings me a lot of joy. Even if some non glider pilots want to throw mud. The act of flying doesn’t necessarily make you a pilot. BTW, the young pilot who did have the accident is continuing with their training. They are very determined and we feel certain a rating is in the near future.
Sincerely,
Rich

No worries, Rich - we're good!
Uli
'AS'