Tying down a fiber glass ship.

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 04:00:29 -0800, gfbwinscore wrote:

This LS-3 was tied out at a contest in Chester SC in 1981. Large angle
iron stakes were driven deeply in the ground (by me) and tied securely
to the wing. Didn't help.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl63Kh8fmSk4GypoQ

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl7jYnQiqu9IWs9Kw

....and notice the trailer on its side in the hedge in the second shot.

If the wind that night could do that to a trailer then any glider that
was tied down the previous evening is unlikely to be in the same state
the following morning.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

Why is the glider's wheel retracted?Â* And how was that accomplished with
the glider sitting on its back?Â* Maybe it had just been rigged on the
trailer?Â* It appears the clam shell on the trailer is open. Of course
that could have happened when the trailer was tossed.

Recall the story of the very large Cobra trailer that was ripped off the
tow vehicle by a down burst and landed on one of the land out crew (he
survived).

On 1/26/2018 8:27 AM, Kiwi User wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 04:00:29 -0800, gfbwinscore wrote:

This LS-3 was tied out at a contest in Chester SC in 1981. Large angle
iron stakes were driven deeply in the ground (by me) and tied securely
to the wing. Didn't help.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl63Kh8fmSk4GypoQ

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl7jYnQiqu9IWs9Kw

...and notice the trailer on its side in the hedge in the second shot.

If the wind that night could do that to a trailer then any glider that
was tied down the previous evening is unlikely to be in the same state
the following morning.



--
Dan, 5J

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:14:15 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Why is the glider's wheel retracted?Â* And how was that accomplished with
the glider sitting on its back?Â* Maybe it had just been rigged on the
trailer?Â* It appears the clam shell on the trailer is open. Of course
that could have happened when the trailer was tossed.

Recall the story of the very large Cobra trailer that was ripped off the
tow vehicle by a down burst and landed on one of the land out crew (he
survived).

On 1/26/2018 8:27 AM, Kiwi User wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 04:00:29 -0800, gfbwinscore wrote:

This LS-3 was tied out at a contest in Chester SC in 1981. Large angle
iron stakes were driven deeply in the ground (by me) and tied securely
to the wing. Didn't help.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl63Kh8fmSk4GypoQ

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl7jYnQiqu9IWs9Kw

...and notice the trailer on its side in the hedge in the second shot.

If the wind that night could do that to a trailer then any glider that
was tied down the previous evening is unlikely to be in the same state
the following morning.



--
Dan, 5J

Dan, The LS overcenter isn't always as positive as desired. I'm sure the violence of being flipped over caused the gear to retract.
Cheers,
Craig

Thanks!

On 1/26/2018 1:53 PM, Craig Funston wrote:
On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:14:15 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Why is the glider's wheel retracted?Â* And how was that accomplished with
the glider sitting on its back?Â* Maybe it had just been rigged on the
trailer?Â* It appears the clam shell on the trailer is open. Of course
that could have happened when the trailer was tossed.

Recall the story of the very large Cobra trailer that was ripped off the
tow vehicle by a down burst and landed on one of the land out crew (he
survived).

On 1/26/2018 8:27 AM, Kiwi User wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 04:00:29 -0800, gfbwinscore wrote:

This LS-3 was tied out at a contest in Chester SC in 1981. Large angle
iron stakes were driven deeply in the ground (by me) and tied securely
to the wing. Didn't help.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl63Kh8fmSk4GypoQ

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl7jYnQiqu9IWs9Kw

...and notice the trailer on its side in the hedge in the second shot.

If the wind that night could do that to a trailer then any glider that
was tied down the previous evening is unlikely to be in the same state
the following morning.


--
Dan, 5J
Dan, The LS overcenter isn't always as positive as desired. I'm sure the violence of being flipped over caused the gear to retract.
Cheers,
Craig

--
Dan, 5J

Dan that LS4 found itself up in the air. It thought it was flying and the dummy in the cockpit forgot to retract the gear, so it did it itself lol. "Idiot pilots I have to do everything for them".

Back in the day, the rubber-steel bond in the torsional springs at the top of the LS landing gear struts sometimes weakened/failed. The symptom was a fuselage that settled lower and lower to the ground over time. So many of us avoided leaving the glider assembled on the gear unless we intended to fly right away (especially with water ballast loaded).

I wasn't at Cordele that year (thank goodness!). Nor can I recall when I became aware of this problem and replaced my springs. But it's possible that the glider was tied out with the nose on the trailer's fuselage cradle and the wheel retracted. Not sure I'd have done it that way but it's another possibility given the quirky LS gear.

Chip Bearden

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 12:14:15 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
Why is the glider's wheel retracted?Â* And how was that accomplished with
the glider sitting on its back?Â*

Here is another photo that shows a close-up of the landing gear area. The glider was tied out with the gear down separate from the trailer.

Obviously the gear mechanism was damaged and the gear retracted on its own.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvUur2HHyXlUhvl-Op01tLPIvwAeJQ