Stupid hp to thrust question

nafod40 wrote:

RR Urban wrote:
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:24:00 -0500, "Mark" wrote:


Does a prop turning at 2300 rpm on a 150hp motor produce more thrust than a
prop spinning 2300 rpm on a 100 hp motor ?

To paraphrase the question...

If I put 150 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag, and 150 lbs of crap in a 150
lb bag, which bag is holding more crap?

OOooooooo..... *SO* close, and yet just off. I think you meant to say:
"If I put 100 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag, and 100 lbs of crap in a 150 lb bag,
which bag holds more crap?"

Russell Kent

"Russell Kent" wrote in message
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nafod40 wrote:

OOooooooo..... *SO* close, and yet just off. I think you meant to say:
"If I put 100 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag, and 100 lbs of crap in a 150 lb
bag,
which bag holds more crap?"

That's an easy one - A 150 lb (capacity) bag holds more crap than a 100 lb
(capacity) bag.

I think YOU meant to say, "If I put 100 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag, and 100
lbs of crap in a 150 lb bag, Which bag contains more crap?"

Rich "150 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag is known as a 'Blivet'". S.

"Rich S." wrote:

"Russell Kent" wrote in message
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nafod40 wrote:

OOooooooo..... *SO* close, and yet just off. I think you meant to say:
"If I put 100 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag, and 100 lbs of crap in a 150 lb
bag,
which bag holds more crap?"

That's an easy one - A 150 lb (capacity) bag holds more crap than a 100 lb
(capacity) bag.

I think YOU meant to say, "If I put 100 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag, and 100
lbs of crap in a 150 lb bag, Which bag contains more crap?"

Rich "150 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag is known as a 'Blivet'". S.

Not so fast. If my eyes aren't deceiving me, the only change you made was
"contains" for "holds". English being an exceptionally slippery language, it
seems to me that those terms are synonymous. Makes it rather hard to give a
definitive answer to the original poster's question if we aren't clear on
whether "hold/contains" means "at the moment" or "at maximum capacity", which I
believe is the issue that nafod40 was attempting to illustrate with his
posting. I was only trying to show that nafod40's choice of numbers weren't
quite parallel to the original poster's question.

BTW, there's entirely too much crap in here. :-)

ob. aviation content: My Dad used to drop blivets from the B-52 he flew. :-)

Russell Kent

"Russell Kent" wrote in message
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Not so fast. If my eyes aren't deceiving me, the only change you made was
"contains" for "holds". English being an exceptionally slippery language,
it
seems to me that those terms are synonymous. Makes it rather hard to give
a
definitive answer to the original poster's question if we aren't clear on
whether "hold/contains" means "at the moment" or "at maximum capacity",
which I
believe is the issue that nafod40 was attempting to illustrate with his
posting. I was only trying to show that nafod40's choice of numbers
weren't
quite parallel to the original poster's question.

BTW, there's entirely too much crap in here. :-)

ob. aviation content: My Dad used to drop blivets from the B-52 he flew.
:-)

Slippery? I won't go there. :^P

But I think "contains" is much more appropriate than "holds". Example - In
front of you are two empty sacks; one of 150 lbs capacity (assuming standard
crap mass/weight/volume/specific gravity) and another of 100 lbs capacity.
Which one "holds" more? Which one contains more? There's no correct answer -
it's just my opinion and probably stinks.

Aviation reply - No wonder the N. Vietnamese hated the Bee 52!!! Would that
be a weapon of Mass Corruption?

Rich S.

"Rich S." wrote:

But I think "contains" is much more appropriate than "holds". Example - In
front of you are two empty sacks; one of 150 lbs capacity (assuming standard
crap mass/weight/volume/specific gravity) and another of 100 lbs capacity.
Which one "holds" more? Which one contains more? There's no correct answer -
it's just my opinion and probably stinks.

On this we vigorously agree: there's no correct answer. And I think, no, I'm
*certain* that was the point that nafod40 was attempting to make. My only point
of contention involved his particular sequence of numbers.

Aviation reply - No wonder the N. Vietnamese hated the Bee 52!!! Would that
be a weapon of Mass Corruption?

Actually, Dad said they carried and dropped "concrete blivets" out in some
bombing range out West. He also dropped real iron bombs over various parts of
S.E. Asia, but I never heard him say anything about dropping blivets, concrete
or otherwise, there. But you never know. There was some conversation about
ferrying the wing commander's Volkswagon (IIRC) in the bomb bay once during an
extended training deployment...

Russell Kent

Russell Kent wrote:
nafod40 wrote:


RR Urban wrote:

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:24:00 -0500, "Mark" wrote:



Does a prop turning at 2300 rpm on a 150hp motor produce more thrust than a
prop spinning 2300 rpm on a 100 hp motor ?

To paraphrase the question...

If I put 150 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag, and 150 lbs of crap in a 150
lb bag, which bag is holding more crap?


OOooooooo..... *SO* close, and yet just off. I think you meant to say:
"If I put 100 lbs of crap in a 100 lb bag, and 100 lbs of crap in a 150 lb bag,
which bag holds more crap?"

My language was carefully chosen with the utmost attention to detail. To
paraphrase Humpty-Dumpty...

"When I use a phrase," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."

"The question is, " said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many
different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty. "which is to be master—that's all."