First glider to buy 10-20k euro's

Op woensdag 28 maart 2018 13:59:53 UTC+2 schreef JS:
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:38:09 AM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 02:45:59 -0700, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:

Do you happen to have experience with the ASW19 and how they differ to
the Pegase?

I've never flown one, but the Peg, ASW-19 and ASW-20 cockpits are
identical for all practical purposes. If you like one, you'll like the
rest: if you look carefully under the Peg wing you can see where the
ASW-19/20 NACA duct for cockpit ventilation has been filled in. This
dates from when Centraire were building ASW-20s under license: the Peg
fuselage is a minimally modified ASW-20 one (slightly larger diam tail
boom, cockpit ventilation intake on the nose, some have a lifting panel.

What scares me about owning a
Pegase or Libelle is maintenance.

Not a Libelle problem. Glasfaser hold the type cert, and have done ever
since Glasflugel folded. They give excellent support. During this tear's
annuals we discovered damage the the rear u/c axle and a non-approved
(solid 20mm shaft) front u/c axle, ovbiously from a hard landing, but no
mention in the log book. Glasfaser airmailed replacement axles + bolts &
washers which arrived within a week.

Situation isn't so clear for the Peg.


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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

The Pegase cockpit has a panel that tilts up with the canopy, which the 19, 20A and early B did not have unless modified.
Jim

How does the canopy open on those models? Is it a tilted canopy to the side? As I am fairly short and can hardly reach the Pegase canopy when I'm strapped tight.

I had a '19 many years ago, a 1978 model, I think.Â* The canopy opened
forward but the panel was fixed to the fuselage.Â* I have seen some
smaller people have a light rope attached or looped over one of the
locking levers to pull down the canopy.Â* It's removed after the canopy
is down and stowed.

On 3/28/2018 6:07 AM, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
Op woensdag 28 maart 2018 13:59:53 UTC+2 schreef JS:
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:38:09 AM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 02:45:59 -0700, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:

Do you happen to have experience with the ASW19 and how they differ to
the Pegase?

I've never flown one, but the Peg, ASW-19 and ASW-20 cockpits are
identical for all practical purposes. If you like one, you'll like the
rest: if you look carefully under the Peg wing you can see where the
ASW-19/20 NACA duct for cockpit ventilation has been filled in. This
dates from when Centraire were building ASW-20s under license: the Peg
fuselage is a minimally modified ASW-20 one (slightly larger diam tail
boom, cockpit ventilation intake on the nose, some have a lifting panel.

What scares me about owning a
Pegase or Libelle is maintenance.

Not a Libelle problem. Glasfaser hold the type cert, and have done ever
since Glasflugel folded. They give excellent support. During this tear's
annuals we discovered damage the the rear u/c axle and a non-approved
(solid 20mm shaft) front u/c axle, ovbiously from a hard landing, but no
mention in the log book. Glasfaser airmailed replacement axles + bolts &
washers which arrived within a week.

Situation isn't so clear for the Peg.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org
The Pegase cockpit has a panel that tilts up with the canopy, which the 19, 20A and early B did not have unless modified.
Jim
How does the canopy open on those models? Is it a tilted canopy to the side? As I am fairly short and can hardly reach the Pegase canopy when I'm strapped tight.

--
Dan, 5J

Op woensdag 28 maart 2018 16:24:54 UTC+2 schreef Dan Marotta:
I had a '19 many years ago, a 1978 model, I think.Â* The canopy opened
forward but the panel was fixed to the fuselage.Â* I have seen some
smaller people have a light rope attached or looped over one of the
locking levers to pull down the canopy.Â* It's removed after the canopy
is down and stowed.

On 3/28/2018 6:07 AM, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
Op woensdag 28 maart 2018 13:59:53 UTC+2 schreef JS:
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 3:38:09 AM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 02:45:59 -0700, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:

Do you happen to have experience with the ASW19 and how they differ to
the Pegase?

I've never flown one, but the Peg, ASW-19 and ASW-20 cockpits are
identical for all practical purposes. If you like one, you'll like the
rest: if you look carefully under the Peg wing you can see where the
ASW-19/20 NACA duct for cockpit ventilation has been filled in. This
dates from when Centraire were building ASW-20s under license: the Peg
fuselage is a minimally modified ASW-20 one (slightly larger diam tail
boom, cockpit ventilation intake on the nose, some have a lifting panel.

What scares me about owning a
Pegase or Libelle is maintenance.

Not a Libelle problem. Glasfaser hold the type cert, and have done ever
since Glasflugel folded. They give excellent support. During this tear's
annuals we discovered damage the the rear u/c axle and a non-approved
(solid 20mm shaft) front u/c axle, ovbiously from a hard landing, but no
mention in the log book. Glasfaser airmailed replacement axles + bolts &
washers which arrived within a week.

Situation isn't so clear for the Peg.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org
The Pegase cockpit has a panel that tilts up with the canopy, which the 19, 20A and early B did not have unless modified.
Jim
How does the canopy open on those models? Is it a tilted canopy to the side? As I am fairly short and can hardly reach the Pegase canopy when I'm strapped tight.

--
Dan, 5J

Aah that makes it very interesting. If the canopy still opens forward, attaching a string would suit me perfectly

On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 05:07:31 -0700, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:

As I am fairly short and can hardly reach the Pegase canopy when
I'm strapped tight.

My club's Pegase has always had a piece of cord, around 35cm long with a
knot on the bottom, that hangs from the right side canopy latch. That
makes it easy to pull the canopy down far enough to get both hands on the
latch levers to pull it closed and lock it.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org