Trailer license problem

On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-5, JS wrote:
On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 9:13:02 AM UTC-7, Paul Agnew wrote:
FWIW - you can order trailer ID tags, engraved or blank, from Ebay or Amazon. Putting one on the trailer might help some of you with your local requirements.

Paul A.

Why do so many US glider pilots not have clean title to trailers?
My estimate is 20%.
Jim

My Michigan purchased homebuilt came without a title. My Illinois home state DOT had no problem with creating one.

What I am picking up here is that each state (from and/or to) has its own nuances/hurdles/insanity on getting the trailer properly licensed/titled.

My bottom line is that I believe I can move the trailer across any state line without either a plate, or a title, as long as I have a valid bill of sale (with phone numbers!). Is that a flawed assumption?

- John OHM Ω

You're correct - each state has its own hoops for you to get OK with a trailer. Some don't require title or plates, some require plates and registration but give no title, some require a title to get registration and plates.

I can tell you for sure that if you have a PA plate (we only use one) on your tow vehicle and you pull a trailer without a license plate, you will have trouble with the police even if you have a valid BoS (happened to a friend). Might get away with it with non-PA plate(s) on the tow vehicle, but it all depends on the officer you get...

-John, Q3

On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 2:19:58 PM UTC-4, OHM Ω My Michigan purchased homebuilt came without a title. My Illinois home state DOT had no problem with creating one.

What I am picking up here is that each state (from and/or to) has its own nuances/hurdles/insanity on getting the trailer properly licensed/titled.

My bottom line is that I believe I can move the trailer across any state line without either a plate, or a title, as long as I have a valid bill of sale (with phone numbers!). Is that a flawed assumption?

- John OHM Ω

Its incedibly ironic that a country that cant manage the most obvious need for gun laws, where an AR15 can be purchased readily, makes it so Byzantine to buy a trailer.
Only in ‘Murica.

Well, maybe there needs to be the "NTA", National Trailer Association, to push for trailer reforms. Then, almost anyone can buy and register a trailer whether they need one or not.

;-) LOL......
/sarcasm.....

Valid point though.

On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 6:55:43 AM UTC-5, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Well, maybe there needs to be the "NTA", National Trailer Association, to push for trailer reforms. Then, almost anyone can buy and register a trailer whether they need one or not.

;-) LOL......
/sarcasm.....

Valid point though.

"Only a good guy with a trailer can stop a bad guy with a trailer". "I'll give you my trailer if you pry is from my cold dead hands".

Its inc[r]edibly ironic that a country that can[']t manage the most obvious
need for gun laws, where an AR15 can be purchased readily, makes it so
Byzantine to buy a trailer. Only in ‘Murica.

Ha ha! Nice troll! Undoubtedly all true central planning acolytes are in
complete agreement with these sentiments! Others - not so much. There were/are
plentiful/historically-telling - both then and, arguably, more so now now -
reasons our Founding Fathers presented to Britain's ex-colonists proposed
plans for a federal republic for their approval. Some of us - even soaring
pilots - still think they were keen observers of human nature...and pretty
darned intelligent, too. (Thanks, gentlemen!)

'My' state (CO) pretty much follows the 'NJ model' of wanting their pound of
trailer-owners' flesh, while not being bureaucratically obtuse on the
hoop-jumping front. Curiously, my glider trailer is registered as 'homebuilt'
- which, technically, it is - while my utility trailer is registered as
'glider' - which, technically, it ain't. I no longer remember how this came to
be, but everyone was/is reasonably happy about things...and the feds remain
blissfully uncaring about our petty little in-state trailer registration
dealings. I find that no less satisfying than soaring!!!

Bob W.

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Does it take a mandate to be organised? In states where a title is not required, it is still possible to get one. A small investment of time and money when you buy or build - in California a $21 option - helps when you sell the trailer.
Jim