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Old June 29th 18, 01:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Dan,

As you said, "Not to change Dave's thread on leaving the Arcus," On every flight, we have training opportunities.

I like your comment to make "every exit after a flight a simulated exit."

In that light, every release from tow can be a simulated PT3 maneuver.

Raul Boerner
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Old June 29th 18, 02:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 8:49:32 PM UTC-4, wrote:

In that light, every release from tow can be a simulated PT3 maneuver.


First step in PT3 is to push stick forward, then AFTER establishing stable airspeed, initiating a steep turn. People stall-spin on PT3 because they initiate the turn before establishing stable airspeed.

Pushing the stick forward after pulling the tow release, and before initiating the turn, is asking for trouble.




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Old June 29th 18, 02:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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"Pushing the stick forward after pulling the tow release, and before initiating the turn, is asking for trouble."

You just contradicted yourself. What are you suggesting? Pull the stick BACK and then initiate a turn? Put the bong down.

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Old June 29th 18, 02:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 8:15:54 PM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:

First step in PT3 is to push stick forward, then AFTER establishing stable airspeed, initiating a steep turn. People stall-spin on PT3 because they initiate the turn before establishing stable airspeed.

Pushing the stick forward after pulling the tow release, and before initiating the turn, is asking for trouble.


Huh? If you think of flying as pushing and pulling on the stick (unless doing aerobatics) you are already setup for a problem at some time in the future. Pressure, dude, pressure...

Establishing the appropriate airspeed after a release on tow may require lowering the nose (slow tow behind an Agcat), or raising the nose (the towplane loses his engine and starts going down before you release). Neither response requires any pulling or pushing, just using pressure on the stick to establish the appropriate angle of attack (nose position) to initiate a turn..

Rote responses to emergencies are not always the best solution - even a PTT at 200 ft gives you plenty of time to figure out what to do and do it right - not just blindly shove the controls around!

Next time you get a tow, brief the tow pilot to reduce power at the top of the tow (simulating engine failure), lower his nose to descend at glide speed, then rock you off - it is a LOT different from the usual release during a stabilized climb at normal tow speed. Also a good time to brief and practice open spoilers (at safe altitude) with towplane rudder waggle response..

Plus it's fun!

Kirk
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Old July 3rd 18, 04:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Hi,

I think the NOAH system is a great product.

Below is a note from DG in regard to installations in gliders not made by DG/LS.

“In general it is possible and certified to install NOAH in LS/DG single seaters and Schempp-Hirth (discus/ventus, all fuselages except “a”). We could provide the material kits for those, to be installed in an authorized workshop in the US. For Schleicher (Asw-27, Asg-29 and ASH-26/31) prototypes have been installed, but the installation has not been certified as yet. However we could provide kits as well, only to be installed in “experimental” ships.

All customers who are interested can send us an inquiry and then we will find a solution to deliver the NOAH kit to the USA. We are currently checking availability, installation documentation and prices of the Schempp-Hirth and Schleicher installations.”

Let me know if you want a quote on an NOAH system for your sailplane.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 9:39:40 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
Not to change Dave's thread on leaving the Arcus, I was intrigued by
Francois' mention of the slippery cockpit floor in the front cockpit of
the Numbus 4DM.* I've noticed that in most single seaters I've flown and
I'm happy to say that my Stemme is fully carpeted to the forward
bulkhead which makes for better traction when climbing out. It still
takes a lot of upper body strength and, at 70 years old, I'm working out
3 days per week to try to keep some of that.

Everyone, please make every exit after a flight a simulated exit. Locate
those jettison handles, but don't actuate them.* Raise the canopy
normally and then bail out.* Release that belt, rise up, and roll over
the side.* You should have enough slack in oxygen and water hoses to not
stretch them.* But please practice!
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Old July 3rd 18, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Regarding a static line, do they just hook to the D-ring?
I’m interested.

A few days ago I fired off an email to Softie for guidance but have not gotten a response.

WG
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Old July 3rd 18, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Generally, yes. Something solid in the aircraft so if you get hit on the way out, the line/cord comes tight and pulls the chute release.
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Old July 4th 18, 03:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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In Australia, the late Paul Mander designed and manufactured a self-contained gas-inflated bladder. One simply unrolls it and places it on the seat of any glider one flies. Just find a spot to secrete the gas bottle, and ensure that the activation toggle is to hand. Because the device is not integrated with the aircraft in any way, it does not need certification.

The device, universally known as "Paul's whoopee cushion", is well engineered and seems to work reliably. Inadvertent inflation in flight is, I understand, uncomfortable rather than disastrous, and the bladder self-deflates in a few seconds.

Paul sold quite a few of them down under. His son Henry was mainly conducting the business, but I don't know where that is at, following Paul's untimely passing early this year.

Digressing slightly, it should be noted that this initiative was one of many contributions that Paul made to gliding in Australia. Sometimes irascible, sometimes divisive, Paul was nevertheless a wonderful person who would give anyone a hand, or offer advice, as well as being an accomplished, record-holding pilot. He was not one dimensional, either, having had many achievements outside gliding, in business and in other pastimes.

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Old July 5th 18, 03:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Is this the one that used a lawn tractor inner tube or similar folded in half? I remember one posted here on RAS that looked simple, cheap and effective - a rare combination.
 




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