Top Hat Question (XCSoar?)

when I have used both XCSoar and Top hat they have both done exactly what you are asking for. My setting are
Look pages Infoboxes is set to auto
and

look infoboxes use final glide mode off

I also have different infoboxes for cruise mode and circling mode

make sure you are using the Advanced mode menue

when I am flying straight it is in cruise mode and zoomed out. then I start thermaling and it goes to circling mode and zooms into whatever zoom I used in the last thermal. Then when I leave the thermal it zooms out to whatever zoom I was at before the thermal. Just remember it will the zoom both in and out of circling mode are sticky so they will go back to what you were using the last time it was in that mode. Also you can test this out by replying an igc file at 1 or 2 times speed. If you replay at to fast a speed it won't trip the switch between cruise and climb.
Also in the GLide Computer Experimental section, you can adjust the averaging time as well as turn radios that trips both going into and out of circling mode.

What Wyll and 6pk describe is what the OP wants EXCEPT he also wants to be able to make the switch manually so that when circling he can check the overview situation, then go back into circling mode.

My solution is to run 2 devices, one map zoomed in, the other showing an overview!

On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 3:41:09 AM UTC-4, waremark wrote:
What Wyll and 6pk describe is what the OP wants EXCEPT he also wants to be able to make the switch manually so that when circling he can check the overview situation, then go back into circling mode.

My solution is to run 2 devices, one map zoomed in, the other showing an overview!

That's what I had for many years: GNII running on a Compaq 1500 with whatever overhead view I was using to navigate (e.g., 5-20 miles) plus a Garmin handheld on the side of the cockpit permanently zoomed in so I could watch my track in a thermal from overhead--and explore under a cloud or nearby knowing I could follow the breadcrumbs back to the center. Despite the fact that the Garmin didn't have any indication of lift strength, more than once I made it home in the evening because I was able to sample other wisps or areas looking for better lift and then return to the weak but steady thermal I'd found earlier with ease, all without having to change or touch anything..

Such is progress. I'm almost ready to bolt the Garmin back into the cockpit.. I'm frustrated that I can't get those two views without multiple presses of a touchscreen button (overriding the zoom when I let the Top Hat pages switch automatically) OR manually switching from cruise to climb (and back again) every time I stop to thermal. The sensors and algorithms are all there to sense when I'm circling and change the zoom level and infoboxes displayed. But I fear the logic to do what I want is not.

Chip Bearden

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 11:37:33 PM UTC-7, Wyll Surf Air wrote:
when I have used both XCSoar and Top hat they have both done exactly what you are asking for. My setting are
Look pages Infoboxes is set to auto
and

look infoboxes use final glide mode off

I also have different infoboxes for cruise mode and circling mode

make sure you are using the Advanced mode menue

when I am flying straight it is in cruise mode and zoomed out. then I start thermaling and it goes to circling mode and zooms into whatever zoom I used in the last thermal. Then when I leave the thermal it zooms out to whatever zoom I was at before the thermal. Just remember it will the zoom both in and out of circling mode are sticky so they will go back to what you were using the last time it was in that mode. Also you can test this out by replying an igc file at 1 or 2 times speed. If you replay at to fast a speed it won't trip the switch between cruise and climb.
Also in the GLide Computer Experimental section, you can adjust the averaging time as well as turn radios that trips both going into and out of circling mode.

Well described; that is exactly my experience ( accept I do have final glide set up but with the same nav boxes as cruise).

On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 2:37:33 AM UTC-4, Wyll Surf Air wrote:
Just remember it will the zoom both in and out of circling mode are sticky so they will go back to what you were using the last time it was in that mode. Also you can test this out by replying an igc file at 1 or 2 times speed. If you replay at to fast a speed it won't trip the switch between cruise and climb.

Thanks--this was very helpful! Reducing the replay speed does allow certain automatic switching to occur. However, I still can't tell if I can do what I want. Fortunately this weekend looks very flyable so I'll get a chance to experiment...and will report the results.

Chip Bearden