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On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:45:06 PM UTC+2, Jock Proudfoot wrote:
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new- mexico/articles/2018-07-11/albuquerque-man-dies-in-glider-crash- near-moriarty-airport He was so excited about his new V3. There's a hint. Not saying this is the cause for this accident, but it's sad to see how many people in the past have gotten into trouble for being too confident flying a new aircraft they haven't yet fully figured out. I know all of you who have been around aircraft for any significant amount of time know what I am talking about. Last time I saw this happen was in Mass., where a new pilot from the UK had never flown an aircraft with flaps and got them wrong on final. He ended up in a tree at the far end of the runway, thankfully with nothing but a bruised ego, but we never saw him again. |
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 12:22:03 PM UTC+2, wrote:
Last time I saw this happen was in Mass., where a new pilot from the UK had never flown an aircraft with flaps and got them wrong on final. I meant to say "where a highy experienced pilot from the UK with a new glider had never flown an aircraft with flaps..." |
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The LAK-17 is a flapped ship, so I doubt flaps had anything to do with
it.Â* Let's not blame the pilot prematurely. On 7/15/2018 8:25 AM, wrote: On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 12:22:03 PM UTC+2, wrote: Last time I saw this happen was in Mass., where a new pilot from the UK had never flown an aircraft with flaps and got them wrong on final. I meant to say "where a highy experienced pilot from the UK with a new glider had never flown an aircraft with flaps..." -- Dan, 5J |
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 5:37:11 PM UTC+2, Dan Marotta wrote:
The LAK-17 is a flapped ship, so I doubt flaps had anything to do with it.Â* Let's not blame the pilot prematurely. Better yet, let's not put words in my mouth. You said that, not me. What I said is crystal clear: "Not saying this is the cause for this accident..." |
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Anybody check the tail weight? Remember the guy that told the factory to put in 4 pounds of tail weight and they put in 4 kilograms! I have had good relations with the Federollies over the years, but found it necessary to lead them in the right direction, a time or two. We had an accident where the spoilers stuck wide open and the ship crashed on final. Feds missed the cause completely and I filed the defect report that generated an AD.
Sad news, JJ |
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 3:04:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Anybody check the tail weight? Remember the guy that told the factory to put in 4 pounds of tail weight and they put in 4 kilograms! I have had good relations with the Federollies over the years, but found it necessary to lead them in the right direction, a time or two. We had an accident where the spoilers stuck wide open and the ship crashed on final. Feds missed the cause completely and I filed the defect report that generated an AD. Sad news, JJ Yes. According to Renny, when I spoke to him two weeks or so before the accident, there had been a W&B done several flights prior and the sailplane was flying with a reasonable CG position - don't remember the exact number but mid range-ish. Mike |
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Is there any information on the weather conditions?
SeeYou Mobile, if present, can record True Airspeed and Groundspeed in one second intervals, depending on the instrumentation. Sudden changes in TAS - GS demonstrate windshear. |
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On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 4:22:03 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thursday, July 12, 2018 at 9:45:06 PM UTC+2, Jock Proudfoot wrote: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new- mexico/articles/2018-07-11/albuquerque-man-dies-in-glider-crash- near-moriarty-airport He was so excited about his new V3. There's a hint. Not saying this is the cause for this accident, but it's sad to see how many people in the past have gotten into trouble for being too confident flying a new aircraft they haven't yet fully figured out. I know all of you who have been around aircraft for any significant amount of time know what I am talking about. Last time I saw this happen was in Mass., where a new pilot from the UK had never flown an aircraft with flaps and got them wrong on final. He ended up in a tree at the far end of the runway, thankfully with nothing but a bruised ego, but we never saw him again. Was that guy flying a PIK-20B by any chance? |
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I honestly don't remember, this was some years ago. I left that club because I considered it to have the worst attitude towards safety I had ever seen.
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 5:03:51 AM UTC+2, wrote: Was that guy flying a PIK-20B by any chance? |
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