Rescue Aid

John Foster wrote on 7/19/2018 8:24 PM:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 12:39:06 PM UTC-6, Duster wrote:
Seriously, though, instead of trying to affix a bulky water bottle inside something that could get entangled or lost during bailout, what about using a version of those emergency water packets that lay pretty flat? e.g. 4oz with a 5 year shelf-life: https://www.moreprepared.com/sos-eme...ng-water-pouch
You could place 1 or more in various pockets, inside your shirt or some other clever location? I'll ask my rigger for his input.

Depending on where you live, it may be better to take a Life Straw with you instead of carrying the actual water on your person. This would allow you to drink out of any nearby stream or puddle. And it would probably be lighter too.

No puddles or streams in Nevada and other US desert areas during the months we
generally fly there.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 2:31:39 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
John Foster wrote on 7/19/2018 8:24 PM:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 12:39:06 PM UTC-6, Duster wrote:
Seriously, though, instead of trying to affix a bulky water bottle inside something that could get entangled or lost during bailout, what about using a version of those emergency water packets that lay pretty flat? e.g. 4oz with a 5 year shelf-life: https://www.moreprepared.com/sos-eme...ng-water-pouch
You could place 1 or more in various pockets, inside your shirt or some other clever location? I'll ask my rigger for his input.

Depending on where you live, it may be better to take a Life Straw with you instead of carrying the actual water on your person. This would allow you to drink out of any nearby stream or puddle. And it would probably be lighter too.

No puddles or streams in Nevada and other US desert areas during the months we
generally fly there.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

Ditto on that. There are plenty of places in Nevada where you could walk all day and still not reach any habitation. You would be better off staying with the aircraft and waiting for rescue (it is easier to spot a glider than a person from the air). Having an independent means of reliable communication greatly increases your odds of survival.

Tom

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 4:42:00 PM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 2:31:39 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
John Foster wrote on 7/19/2018 8:24 PM:
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 12:39:06 PM UTC-6, Duster wrote:
Seriously, though, instead of trying to affix a bulky water bottle inside something that could get entangled or lost during bailout, what about using a version of those emergency water packets that lay pretty flat? e.g.. 4oz with a 5 year shelf-life: https://www.moreprepared.com/sos-eme...ng-water-pouch
You could place 1 or more in various pockets, inside your shirt or some other clever location? I'll ask my rigger for his input.

Depending on where you live, it may be better to take a Life Straw with you instead of carrying the actual water on your person. This would allow you to drink out of any nearby stream or puddle. And it would probably be lighter too.

No puddles or streams in Nevada and other US desert areas during the months we
generally fly there.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

You would be better off staying with the aircraft and waiting for rescue (it is easier to spot a glider than a person from the air). Having an independent means of reliable communication greatly increases your odds of survival.

Tom

Absolutely agree. "Allow yourself to be found." Is a fundamental tenet of survival in a situation where one is lost or otherwise in need of rescue. In such as situation, stay in one place and be as findable as possible. Too bad the idiot "survival" shows on TV most often portray dramatic self-rescues that involve climbing sheer cliffs, swimming icy rivers, drinking water squeezed from elephant turds, etc. I guess footage of Bear Grylls sitting patiently with a signalling mirror, a whistle, and a smoky fire would not garner much in the way of ratings.

On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 2:31:39 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:


No puddles or streams in Nevada and other US desert areas during the months we
generally fly there.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)

Clearly you have not crashed near my back yard. Eastern foot of the Carson Range (Sierra) at about the same elevation as the bottom of Lake Tahoe. Could be someone left the rubber stopper in crooked. Water comes out of the mountain from 3 springs 24/7. More water than we know what to do with.

In Nevada, look for a green spot to crash or land. Most likely there'll be a ranch. Farmer's daughter?

bumper wrote on 7/25/2018 11:53 PM:
On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 2:31:39 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:


No puddles or streams in Nevada and other US desert areas during the months we
generally fly there.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)

Clearly you have not crashed near my back yard. Eastern foot of the Carson Range (Sierra) at about the same elevation as the bottom of Lake Tahoe. Could be someone left the rubber stopper in crooked. Water comes out of the mountain from 3 springs 24/7. More water than we know what to do with.

In Nevada, look for a green spot to crash or land. Most likely there'll be a ranch. Farmer's daughter?

If I crash or land with the glider, I'll have plenty of water (in the glider), but
if I bail out, I probably won't be able to steer my parachute to a puddle :^)

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf