Flying with Parachutes

That's faulty logic and that CFIG was making a joke.

On 8/14/2018 8:50 AM, Duster wrote:
That said, equally untrue is, as another famous CFIG once said, there's a 50/50 chance of dying each time you fly (i.e., either you live or you die).

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Dan, 5J

Dan Marotta wrote on 8/14/2018 7:58 AM:
That's faulty logic and that CFIG was making a joke.

On 8/14/2018 8:50 AM, Duster wrote:
That said, equally untrue is, as another famous CFIG once said, there's a 50/50
chance of dying each time you fly (i.e., either you live or you die).

It seemed uninformed about probability at the time, it distracted from the point
he (Knauff, right?) was trying to make, and I never saw the explanation that it
was a joke until now. Lots of people missed the joke explanation, apparently,
given the number that still comment on it's inaccuracy.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 10:58:42 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
That's faulty logic and that CFIG was making a joke.

On 8/14/2018 8:50 AM, Duster wrote:
That said, equally untrue is, as another famous CFIG once said, there's a 50/50 chance of dying each time you fly (i.e., either you live or you die).

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Dan, 5J

Not only that, but it was a 50/50 chance of a rope break on each flight, not death. He was making a sarcastic point about being ready for such an event.

I am not against parachutes, but the thread initiator is a newbie starting lessons and I felt some exposure to the sport up to the point of a glider license would be in order before purchasing such an expensive piece of insurance. Annnnndddd if he is that scared about leaving sweetie and little Susie behind, perhaps he should purchase a Pipistral with a ballistic parachute to improve the odds even more.
Point is, I don’t want to start a trend of advising or scaring new comers to a dying sport that soaring is more dangerous than driving while eating a Big Mac or mowing the grass with a thunderstorm about, and the only way to survive is to pump out the cost of a parachute.
But, I see I am out voted base on what I’ve read, so Johnny, have at. Welcome to a great little known miracle that many created (not me) for our exclusive use.
As for myself, When I fly off my strip, cross country and all, no chute. Comfy cushions.
I’ll probably hit a cow tomorrow.
Cheers,
R

Mercy sakes, we've beat this topic to death!

As for Krasn "grounding" any pilot who doesn't wear a chute, I guess that is a perfect example of why America is America, namely over here we believe in personal liberty and personal responsibility. If a guy and to wear or not wear a chute, thats his/her business. I am more concerned with his flying practices because thats what can kill me (midair etc) not whether he wears a chute. Thats his bisiness.

And don't give me the dribble about having more soaring fatalities being bad for the overall "image" of soaring. We are and have always been a minute subset of the aviation community. Nobody give a hoot about us or our safety record or lack there of. Fatalities occur and will continue to occur primarily due to **** poor aeronautical decisions aka pilot error.

Wear a chute or don't wear a chute, thats your choice. Personally I wear one while flying my bird solo but for training flights I am more concerned with teaching and practicing situational awareness. That is something thats is way more important imop that having a chute.

Liberty eh? Like free speech zones? Like Guantanamo bay? Like children in cages?
I have to say I’m all for Americans taking risks though, raises the worlds average IQ.