Flying with Parachutes

Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote on 8/15/2018 10:54 AM:
I have been in a few violent automotive accidents, airbag never deployed, but belt worked as they should.
Ifmairbags were so great, name a SINGLE automotive racing,application where they are mandated!
A single one.

Irrelevant question for most race cars, because the vehicles are so different:
race car drivers are belted in far more securely than occupants of a passenger
car, and the seats provide much more support. An airbag has nothing to offer in
that situation.

You might as well ask "if cup holders are so great, why don't race cars have them?"

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 12:41:46 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote on 8/15/2018 10:54 AM:
I have been in a few violent automotive accidents, airbag never deployed, but belt worked as they should.
Ifmairbags were so great, name a SINGLE automotive racing,application where they are mandated!
A single one.

Irrelevant question for most race cars, because the vehicles are so different:
race car drivers are belted in far more securely than occupants of a passenger
car, and the seats provide much more support. An airbag has nothing to offer in
that situation.

You might as well ask "if cup holders are so great, why don't race cars have them?"

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

I think that is actually the million dollar question. If cup holders are so great, why dont race cars have them? Anyone care to take a crack at it?

The airbag comment is interesting.
Several good quality studies have looked at the impact of airbags on deaths in motor vehicle accidents. The interesting statistics have to do with the use of seatbelts. Turns out that seatbelts are responsible for the reduction in deaths, not airbags. When not wearing seatbelts the airbags made no reduction in deaths.

wrote on 8/15/2018 1:11 PM:
The airbag comment is interesting. Several good quality studies have looked at
the impact of airbags on deaths in motor vehicle accidents. The interesting
statistics have to do with the use of seatbelts. Turns out that seatbelts are
responsible for the reduction in deaths, not airbags. When not wearing
seatbelts the airbags made no reduction in deaths.

Currently, airbags are designed to be used with seat belts, and it's well known
that airbags are ineffective for the unbelted occupant. There are plenty of
studies showing that when both are used, fatalities and injuries are reduced over
seat belt only use.


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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

Airbags may be good for the first hit, but they're single use......so when you hit something, and THEN another thing, you're toast since the airbag has already been deployed.

As I stated before, I have no issues with chutes.
Never needed one, glad I had it in competitions.
I will NOT frown on someone that wants one.
Some ships make it a royal PITA to wear.