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Old September 18th 18, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Scott Manley[_3_]
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Do you have the evidence to prove this Scott, and if so how much of a
'time-saver' on real life flying does the computer based training make to

the average student?


Paul,

Call me at the phone number listed in the my reply to Newbie. I would be happy to share my thoughts on your question based on my experience over 10 years.

The airlines, military, and professional flight training organization (e.g., Flight Safety) have long established the economic and time-saving benefits of simulation-based flight training. I have no need to reprove the already proven.

My primary evidence of the effectiveness and efficiency of computer-based flight simulation is the testimony of the 70 folks I have worked with.

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Old September 18th 18, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul T[_4_]
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At 22:44 18 September 2018, Scott Manley wrote:



Do you have the evidence to prove this Scott, and if so how much of

a
'time-saver' on real life flying does the computer based training

make
to

the average student?


Paul,

Call me at the phone number listed in the my reply to Newbie. I would

be
happy to share my thoughts on your question based on my experience

over 10
years.

The airlines, military, and professional flight training organization
(e.g., Flight Safety) have long established the economic and time-

saving
benefits of simulation-based flight training. I have no need to reprove
the already proven.

My primary evidence of the effectiveness and efficiency of computer-

based
flight simulation is the testimony of the 70 folks I have worked with.



Sorry can't afford transatlantic telephone calls - I asked a fairly simple

question, why can't you answer this on a public forum?



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Old September 19th 18, 01:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Paul,

I'll jump in here with my most recent experience with a new soaring pilot and simulation training:

Student: Never having flown glider but was rated in airplanes and was current.

Two hours "flying" Condor aerotows one evening.

The next day did four flights, The first one I gave him the controls at 1000 ft. and he flew the rest of the tow; i did the landing. The second flight he flew the whole flight from lift off to touch down. Ditto for the remaining two flights.

I have 400 hours teaching glider pilots and 5800 hours teaching airplane pilots.

I've never had a quicker building of skills in a new pilot. He's the first I use the Condor method. I will be using it from now on.

Mike Bamberg

PS. in the flight school where I accrued all those hours we would always use simulators whenever possible. The only disadvantage was the lack of "feel" which was easily gained once the student began flying in the plane.
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Old September 19th 18, 01:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Sorry can't afford transatlantic telephone calls - I asked a fairly simple

question, why can't you answer this on a public forum?


Skype it!

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Old September 19th 18, 03:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Ed,

Glad to hear that the gliding/soaring bug may have bit you.

Regarding #2 - Can Gliders take off and land at any airport/airfield...or are there known designated airports?

Lets break down this question into the ups and downs of it.

Landing - Legally, as Cindy said, you can land any aircraft (which includes gliders) at any airport. Practically speaking small grass and local hard surface low-traffic airports are "easy", mid-size airports you should be on the radio first (if you are able), and finally larger airports with commercial traffic you might/will cause quite a hubbub. But, when in a jam, you gotta' do what you gotta' do. It can be better to just land in a farmer's plowed field adjacent to an active airport than to land on the airport itself (while steering clear of pastures and rocky areas). "Landing out" is something you will need to learn about and prepare for in any case. ;-)

Takeoffs - This is trickier. Glider (non-self launch) operations are considered SLOW by the powered airplane world due to the need to position the glider and tow plane on the runway, hooking up the tow rope, taking up slack, and then launching. Many airport managers (paid, unpaid and/or self-appointed) are very friendly to glider operations while a (thankfully) few are downright hostile. All the glider operations shown on the SSA.org web site have already crossed this negotiation bridge and are actively working to stay on the good side of the local "authorities". Some lucky clubs even own their own airports which avoids nearly all of these problems in the first place!

Bottom line: Begin with an established club or commercial operation as the best way to learn the ropes and stay safe. http://www.ssa.org/WhereToFly

Best of luck,
John OHM Ω
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Old September 19th 18, 07:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Kuykendall
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On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 4:00:07 PM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:

Sorry can't afford transatlantic telephone calls - I asked a fairly simple
question, why can't you answer this on a public forum?



I'll take "sealioning" for a thousand, Alex!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
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Old September 20th 18, 02:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
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With or without the beard?
Sorta depends if you watch enough.......LOL......
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Old September 20th 18, 06:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul T[_4_]
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At 18:16 19 September 2018, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 4:00:07 PM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:

Sorry can't afford transatlantic telephone calls - I asked a fairly

simple
question, why can't you answer this on a public forum?



I'll take "sealioning" for a thousand, Alex!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning


Don't be a **** Bob and assume the worst - was asking a fairly simple
question to someone as to the effectiveness of training with simulation -
which his purportedly his business. Was interested in knowing what the
savings in RL training might be? - don't see why that can't be answered on

a public forum.

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Old September 21st 18, 02:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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“I'll take "sealioning" for a thousand, Alex!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning”

Got it in one, Bob
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Old September 21st 18, 05:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul T[_4_]
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At 13:03 21 September 2018, wrote:
=E2=80=9CI'll take "sealioning" for a thousand, Alex!=20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning=E2=80=9D

Got it in one, Bob

Another ****

 




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