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Old December 8th 18, 08:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tango Eight
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On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 1:11:50 PM UTC-5, krasw wrote:
On Saturday, 8 December 2018 12:25:35 UTC+2, wrote:
“Do these "phantom" classes give more FAI ranking points to pilots (4 winners instead of 2)? I dont see any other reason for this. “

No.


Reading FAI ranking rules it sure does. Pilot quality factor, competition rating all are based on number of good pilots in same class. Put same pilots to multiple classes and you have very good phantom competition that gives a lot of ranking points. Very clever.


Where are the ranking rules to be found?

Who gets to decide if any given nation's rules are "close enough" to Annex A (or some other gold standard) to merit FAI rankings based on their nationals?

T8
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Old December 9th 18, 05:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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lauantai 8. joulukuuta 2018 22.24.01 UTC+2 Tango Eight kirjoitti:
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 1:11:50 PM UTC-5, krasw wrote:
On Saturday, 8 December 2018 12:25:35 UTC+2, wrote:
“Do these "phantom" classes give more FAI ranking points to pilots (4 winners instead of 2)? I dont see any other reason for this. “

No.


Reading FAI ranking rules it sure does. Pilot quality factor, competition rating all are based on number of good pilots in same class. Put same pilots to multiple classes and you have very good phantom competition that gives a lot of ranking points. Very clever.


Where are the ranking rules to be found?

Who gets to decide if any given nation's rules are "close enough" to Annex A (or some other gold standard) to merit FAI rankings based on their nationals?

T8


They are available online, you seriously want help in using google?
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Old December 9th 18, 01:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tango Eight
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On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 12:58:12 AM UTC-5, krasw wrote:
lauantai 8. joulukuuta 2018 22.24.01 UTC+2 Tango Eight kirjoitti:
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 1:11:50 PM UTC-5, krasw wrote:
On Saturday, 8 December 2018 12:25:35 UTC+2, wrote:
“Do these "phantom" classes give more FAI ranking points to pilots (4 winners instead of 2)? I dont see any other reason for this. “

No.

Reading FAI ranking rules it sure does. Pilot quality factor, competition rating all are based on number of good pilots in same class. Put same pilots to multiple classes and you have very good phantom competition that gives a lot of ranking points. Very clever.


Where are the ranking rules to be found?

Who gets to decide if any given nation's rules are "close enough" to Annex A (or some other gold standard) to merit FAI rankings based on their nationals?

T8


They are available online, you seriously want help in using google?


Merry Christmas to you as well.

T8
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Old December 9th 18, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tango Eight View Post
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 1:11:50 PM UTC-5, krasw wrote:
On Saturday, 8 December 2018 12:25:35 UTC+2, wrote:
“Do these "phantom" classes give more FAI ranking points to pilots (4 winners instead of 2)? I dont see any other reason for this. “

No.


Reading FAI ranking rules it sure does. Pilot quality factor, competition rating all are based on number of good pilots in same class. Put same pilots to multiple classes and you have very good phantom competition that gives a lot of ranking points. Very clever.


Where are the ranking rules to be found?



Who gets to decide if any given nation's rules are "close enough" to Annex A (or some other gold standard) to merit FAI rankings based on their nationals?

T8
Hi Evan

Try this link http://rankingdata.fai.org/sc3d.pdf

Cheers
Colin
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Old December 10th 18, 12:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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T8,

US Nationals have been used for FAI ranking over the years if the contest management decides to report the results and pays the associated sanction fees. This has been hit or miss over the years.

As an example you can see the FAI ranking for Phil Gaisford who has ranking based on the PanAms in 2015 that is a Category I event he won and then the 2018 US Standard Class Nationals which he also won and is considered a Category II event. As others have said, the ranking of each event changes with the “quality” of competitors.

http://rankingdata.fai.org/SGP_displ...p?pilotid=3167
 




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