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Old December 29th 18, 08:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
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Default Recirculate cockpit air to keep feet warm?

I have done only a few flights above 13K' MSL in the east, never higher than that.
In other parts, 13K' MSL is a decent Soaring day.

So, I am NOT an expert!

Yes, metal rudder pedals can suck heat real fast.
Sunlight can help a lot.
Being damp (rigging, damp day, whatever.....) REALLY sucks heat.

I can only go by many years/miles hiking and likely lower flight altitudes for flying.
I will TOTALLY defer to others that think my "great altitude" is sorta the bottom of their "safe altitude".

Gotta think of where you are vs. where info is coming from.
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Old December 29th 18, 10:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Recirculate cockpit air to keep feet warm?

And nothing beats wool for staying warm.Â* It even keeps you warm when
it's wet.Â* A little tidbit from arctic survival school...

On 12/29/2018 1:38 PM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
I have done only a few flights above 13K' MSL in the east, never higher than that.
In other parts, 13K' MSL is a decent Soaring day.

So, I am NOT an expert!

Yes, metal rudder pedals can suck heat real fast.
Sunlight can help a lot.
Being damp (rigging, damp day, whatever.....) REALLY sucks heat.

I can only go by many years/miles hiking and likely lower flight altitudes for flying.
I will TOTALLY defer to others that think my "great altitude" is sorta the bottom of their "safe altitude".

Gotta think of where you are vs. where info is coming from.


--
Dan, 5J
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Old December 30th 18, 02:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Default Recirculate cockpit air to keep feet warm?

Dan Marotta wrote on 12/29/2018 2:53 PM:
And nothing beats wool for staying warm.* It even keeps you warm when it's wet.* A
little tidbit from arctic survival school...


Since my down or polyester jacket or snow suit won't be getting wet during a wave
flight, I've gone that route. Don't have anything with wool in it, and thermal
underwear, "street clothes", and an down or polyester snowsuit keep me warm. It
helps a lot that I've fixed all the canopy and vent leaks, and that I usually stop
at 0 deg F on the climb.

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Old December 30th 18, 03:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Recirculate cockpit air to keep feet warm?

I have a Gerbing heated suit for motorcycle riding when I lived in
Upstate NY but it's too bulky and a big power hog so it wouldn't work in
the glider.Â* I could use the socks, however, but the boot warmers that I
originally posted are probably better for a still air environment.

On 12/29/2018 7:00 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Dan Marotta wrote on 12/29/2018 2:53 PM:
And nothing beats wool for staying warm. It even keeps you warm when
it's wet.Â* A little tidbit from arctic survival school...


Since my down or polyester jacket or snow suit won't be getting wet
during a wave flight, I've gone that route. Don't have anything with
wool in it, and thermal underwear, "street clothes", and an down or
polyester snowsuit keep me warm. It helps a lot that I've fixed all
the canopy and vent leaks, and that I usually stop at 0 deg F on the
climb.


--
Dan, 5J
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Old December 31st 18, 04:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan St. Cloud
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Default Recirculate cockpit air to keep feet warm?

On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 2:53:38 PM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
And nothing beats wool for staying warm.Â* It even keeps you warm when
it's wet.Â* A little tidbit from arctic survival school...

On 12/29/2018 1:38 PM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
I have done only a few flights above 13K' MSL in the east, never higher than that.
In other parts, 13K' MSL is a decent Soaring day.

So, I am NOT an expert!

Yes, metal rudder pedals can suck heat real fast.
Sunlight can help a lot.
Being damp (rigging, damp day, whatever.....) REALLY sucks heat.

I can only go by many years/miles hiking and likely lower flight altitudes for flying.
I will TOTALLY defer to others that think my "great altitude" is sorta the bottom of their "safe altitude".

Gotta think of where you are vs. where info is coming from.


--
Dan, 5J


Actually Dan, while wool is a great material for fabric, in technical uses it has been replaced by new technical fibers and will not absorb any water. I basically flying sailing clothes. Including wave flights in by leather sailing boots.
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Old December 31st 18, 04:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Recirculate cockpit air to keep feet warm?

Maybe things have changed (I don't doubt that newer fibers may be as
good as wool), but we were taught that leather was a terrible
insulator.Â* Maybe there's something inside your leather sailing boots
which insulates?

On 12/30/2018 9:01 PM, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 2:53:38 PM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
And nothing beats wool for staying warm.Â* It even keeps you warm when
it's wet.Â* A little tidbit from arctic survival school...

On 12/29/2018 1:38 PM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
I have done only a few flights above 13K' MSL in the east, never higher than that.
In other parts, 13K' MSL is a decent Soaring day.

So, I am NOT an expert!

Yes, metal rudder pedals can suck heat real fast.
Sunlight can help a lot.
Being damp (rigging, damp day, whatever.....) REALLY sucks heat.

I can only go by many years/miles hiking and likely lower flight altitudes for flying.
I will TOTALLY defer to others that think my "great altitude" is sorta the bottom of their "safe altitude".

Gotta think of where you are vs. where info is coming from.

--
Dan, 5J

Actually Dan, while wool is a great material for fabric, in technical uses it has been replaced by new technical fibers and will not absorb any water. I basically flying sailing clothes. Including wave flights in by leather sailing boots.


--
Dan, 5J
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Old January 1st 19, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan St. Cloud
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Default Recirculate cockpit air to keep feet warm?

On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 8:34:54 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Maybe things have changed (I don't doubt that newer fibers may be as
good as wool), but we were taught that leather was a terrible
insulator.Â* Maybe there's something inside your leather sailing boots
which insulates?

On 12/30/2018 9:01 PM, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 2:53:38 PM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
And nothing beats wool for staying warm.Â* It even keeps you warm when
it's wet.Â* A little tidbit from arctic survival school...

On 12/29/2018 1:38 PM, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
I have done only a few flights above 13K' MSL in the east, never higher than that.
In other parts, 13K' MSL is a decent Soaring day.

So, I am NOT an expert!

Yes, metal rudder pedals can suck heat real fast.
Sunlight can help a lot.
Being damp (rigging, damp day, whatever.....) REALLY sucks heat.

I can only go by many years/miles hiking and likely lower flight altitudes for flying.
I will TOTALLY defer to others that think my "great altitude" is sorta the bottom of their "safe altitude".

Gotta think of where you are vs. where info is coming from.
--
Dan, 5J

Actually Dan, while wool is a great material for fabric, in technical uses it has been replaced by new technical fibers and will not absorb any water. I basically flying sailing clothes. Including wave flights in by leather sailing boots.


--
Dan, 5J


I know, leather seems terrible but hey, Yeti and cows do just fine. Link below, but I have put wet feet and socks in these boots and came off my watch with dry feet, winter. https://www.dubarry.us/ultima-leather-sailing-boots
These boots are from Ireland, two things they know are drinking and staying dry/warm.
 




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