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Old March 12th 19, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 7:10:12 PM UTC-4, Charlie Quebec wrote:
Name one case of kiting occouring from low tow. I can’t recall a single incident here, where we only use low tow.
It’s simple physics for goodness sake.


Somewhere (in this thread iirc) is a report on simulating kiting accidents at altitude and low tow being no better. As for citing a real world low tow tug upset I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't any. Not due to increased safety of low tow but due to how universal high tow is. And if there is one I'm sure the evangelical lowtowers would claim the pilot got high first. The lazy procedural golden bullet isn't the answer, the answer is paying attention for five minutes.
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Old March 13th 19, 11:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 7:10:12 PM UTC-4, Charlie Quebec wrote:
Name one case of kiting occouring from low tow. I can’t recall a single incident here, where we only use low tow.
It’s simple physics for goodness sake.


You've made it perfectly clear that you don't understand the physics.

It's all been covered.

READ.

T8
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Old March 14th 19, 12:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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T8 You’ve made it perfectly clear you will stick to your view, regardless of the obvious extra risk you put your tow pilots in. Ive read plenty thanks and the facts are clear to me,
as are the physics. Let’s put it really simply for you, we don’t have kiting incidents from low tow. Even you should understand that..
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Old March 14th 19, 12:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Deep breath........

We all have our say and thoughts.

I can't say a dumb move on the glider end won't hurt/kill the tug pilot. Sorta regardless of what tow position you started in.
I am curious if any meaningful data exists that show a safer tow position.

Harsh choice of words, but as T8 stated, "out of control is out of control".

Soooo....let's attempt to keep this civil and "maybe" we learn something worthwhile.....
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Old March 20th 19, 01:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:15:43 PM UTC-4, Charlie Quebec wrote:
T8 You’ve made it perfectly clear you will stick to your view, regardless of the obvious extra risk you put your tow pilots in. Ive read plenty thanks and the facts are clear to me,
as are the physics. Let’s put it really simply for you, we don’t have kiting incidents from low tow. Even you should understand that..


T8 is a switched on pilot and very safety conscious. I find it funny when online pilot opinions differences devolve into accusations of the 'obviously wrong' pilot being an unsafe cowboy.
As for the original question does cracking a whip from a lower position give you more time to stop the resulting force? And wouldn't you end up with more total energy in a whip cracked from a lower position? Is it even possible to uncrack a whip once energy input has reached a certain level?
 




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