Gun, machine gun and/or cannon?

Subject: Gun, machine gun and/or cannon?
From: "Keith Willshaw"
Date: 8/23/2004 8:58 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Gun, machine gun and/or cannon?


Y'think maybe the guys doing the surveys of battle damage were aware of
that?

I'm sure they were. It was after all the reason the germans
uprated the cannon fit.

I'll bet they might have been. If you know it, I guess they may have known
it
as well. Y'think so?

Sure. Doesnt alter the fact that a 30mm cannon can blow a hole
the size of your fist in a B-17 and its not going to take
too many of those before its in deep ****.

Based on the damage done to downed B-17's the Luftwaffe estimated
that it took an average of 20 hits from the 20mm cannon to destroy a
B-17 but as few as 3 hits from the 30mm.

see

http://www.afa.org/magazine/1993/0993Against.asp

Keith




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We took more hits than that on Willie the Wolf and I am still here to tell
about it.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Gun, machine gun and/or cannon?
From: "Keith Willshaw"
Date: 8/23/2004 8:58 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Gun, machine gun and/or cannon?


Y'think maybe the guys doing the surveys of battle damage were aware of
that?

I'm sure they were. It was after all the reason the germans
uprated the cannon fit.

I'll bet they might have been. If you know it, I guess they may have
known
it
as well. Y'think so?

Sure. Doesnt alter the fact that a 30mm cannon can blow a hole
the size of your fist in a B-17 and its not going to take
too many of those before its in deep ****.

Based on the damage done to downed B-17's the Luftwaffe estimated
that it took an average of 20 hits from the 20mm cannon to destroy a
B-17 but as few as 3 hits from the 30mm.

see

http://www.afa.org/magazine/1993/0993Against.asp

Keith




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We took more hits than that on Willie the Wolf and I am still here to tell
about it.

Well, you have told us a lot of other crap that we have not bought into,
either, so what's new? How many 30mm hits did you take? Heck, you have also
told us your unit *never* missed its assigned target, which is of course
patently false, as *no* unit could honestly make that claim during WWII
(proven by the fact that your unit was NOT recognized as having the best
bombing accuracy amongst B-26 units in the ETO, and the one that *was*
acknowledged having around five or so of their assigned targets that they
did not hit).

Brooks



Arthur Kramer