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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ...
snip of stuff I had already posted about, correcting Mr. McNicoll's wrong attribution Are you thinking it only is valid if he did so during his congressional testimony? If that is the case, then by the same logic we cannot accept anything he says when not under oath? No. I was engaging in primary research. And when I could not find it in the cited work, I asked him for clarification. As you will note, I posted a correct cite, with complete trancript to his present day thoughts and authortative cite, a full half a day before you posted this message ). Chris Manteuffel |
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![]() "Chris Manteuffel" wrote in message om... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... snip of stuff I had already posted about, correcting Mr. McNicoll's wrong attribution How do you know Mr. McNicoll's attribution is wrong? |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net...
How do you know Mr. McNicoll's attribution is wrong? Because I went back to the primary sources and read them and the quote was not there. This was a transcript of the testimony provided by an Anti-Kerry group that had an entire article bashing Kerry for what he had said, and said article did not mention any such quote either, and the format and font match GPO documents from that time period precisely. I posted links to both, should you care to examine them. And then I did find the quote on a Meet The Press from a few days before his Senate testimony. And Kerry agreeing that he had said the quote on Meet the Press back in 1971. Again, I have presented my evidence, posted links to both the original and a transcript of the recent Meet the Press, which you have not addressed. Would you prefer if I said "The Boston Globe's attribution is wrong"? Because, from everything that I can tell, it is. Like Mr. Brooks, I have read the transcript as provided by the GPO. The quote you reference isn't there. He did say it on Meet the Press. This an incorrect cite, and nothing more. Let's stop talking about this. Chris Manteuffel |
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![]() "Chris Manteuffel" wrote in message om... "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net... How do you know Mr. McNicoll's attribution is wrong? Because I went back to the primary sources and read them and the quote was not there. This was a transcript of the testimony provided by an Anti-Kerry group that had an entire article bashing Kerry for what he had said, and said article did not mention any such quote either, and the format and font match GPO documents from that time period precisely. I posted links to both, should you care to examine them. And then I did find the quote on a Meet The Press from a few days before his Senate testimony. And Kerry agreeing that he had said the quote on Meet the Press back in 1971. Again, I have presented my evidence, posted links to both the original and a transcript of the recent Meet the Press, which you have not addressed. Would you prefer if I said "The Boston Globe's attribution is wrong"? Because, from everything that I can tell, it is. Like Mr. Brooks, I have read the transcript as provided by the GPO. The quote you reference isn't there. He did say it on Meet the Press. This an incorrect cite, and nothing more. Let's stop talking about this. Fine with me. But I do find it odd that anyone that strives for accuracy, as your and Brooks' research indicates you both do, would take offense at someone else's desire for accuracy. |
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![]() "Chris Manteuffel" wrote in message om... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... snip of stuff I had already posted about, correcting Mr. McNicoll's wrong attribution Are you thinking it only is valid if he did so during his congressional testimony? If that is the case, then by the same logic we cannot accept anything he says when not under oath? No. I was engaging in primary research. And when I could not find it in the cited work, I asked him for clarification. Oddly enough, I just did a quick Google and got the answer in about three minutes--and BTW, I have yet to see the post where you responded (maybe my newsserver did not catch it, or it got deleted by me along with a slew of other posts by accident). As you will note, I posted a correct cite, with complete trancript to his present day thoughts and authortative cite, a full half a day before you posted this message ). Great, then you agree Kerry has indeed made these claims. Brooks Chris Manteuffel |
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ...
Oddly enough, I just did a quick Google and got the answer in about three minutes Indeed, once I realized that the cite was incorrect, getting a correct cite was trivial. However, I tend to trust cites provided by other people, and so I specifically looked for the senate testimony, and after I read it wanted further clarification. --and BTW, I have yet to see the post where you responded (maybe my newsserver did not catch it, or it got deleted by me along with a slew of other posts by accident). I have provided the message-id of that post that I made, which should allow you to find it on your server. If that doesn't work for you, here it the google reference: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...ing.google.com Great, then you agree Kerry has indeed made these claims. Yes. However, I am not the person who was in this argument before, and he did not dispute the accuracy of this quote either. All I wanted was a correct cite for a quote, and when I checked the reference material the cite turned out to be wrong, so I wanted to get it correct. I am not trying to get involved in a xposted flamewar at all. The only issue I brought up was where the cite was. And now that I know that the Boston Globe got the cite wrong, everything should be clear. Chris Manteuffel |
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