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On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 10:15:14 AM UTC-7, danlj wrote:
Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...photo-17611397

And the homeowner complaints sounds like a mental anguish lawsuit is brewing.... Sigh.

I agree with 5Z. From the first reporting from the scene, I detected that drift.

I hope I'm wrong.

Lou

In situations like this, I always want to hear from whoever sign this guy off. People that are new to our sport depend on those with experience to tell them what they need to know about outlanding, patterns, stalls and spins, and such. We don't do anybody any good teaching to the minimums. Motorgliders are not power planes! Where did he get his training? What is his flight history? Soartech, do you have anymore input for us?

Boggs

On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 12:05:01 PM UTC-7, 5Z wrote:
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 10:15:14 AM UTC-7, danlj wrote:
Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...photo-17611397

And the homeowner complaints sounds like a mental anguish lawsuit is brewing.... Sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUm2BYP_P4

Good lesson for anyone. Stress causes reactions others may not understand. Both the Dip **** pilot (doesn't he have ballistic chute, properly trained...) was shook up and stressed as was the family. I can understand why the pilot was only caring about his glasses, he was rattled and may have had his little brain slammed against his thick skull. Little kids are frightened by many things, so are big kids. So don't judge )

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 2:23:49 PM UTC-4, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 12:05:01 PM UTC-7, 5Z wrote:
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 10:15:14 AM UTC-7, danlj wrote:
Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...photo-17611397

And the homeowner complaints sounds like a mental anguish lawsuit is brewing.... Sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUm2BYP_P4

Good lesson for anyone. Stress causes reactions others may not understand. Both the Dip **** pilot (doesn't he have ballistic chute, properly trained...) was shook up and stressed as was the family. I can understand why the pilot was only caring about his glasses, he was rattled and may have had his little brain slammed against his thick skull. Little kids are frightened by many things, so are big kids. So don't judge )

Calling the pilot a Dip **** and then Saying " So don't judge" makes you sound like a Dip ****!

There's two kinds of failed final glides:

1. Pilot continues until out of options and puts glider into bad place - or botches low approach at fixated destination.

2. Pilot decides insufficient margin and either selects good field or heads to landable terrain that can be reached at height allowing field selection and acceptable circuit.

With sustainers it's more complicated and we are learning that remaining battery capacity can be uncertain. The gas powered folks have long had their problems.

If you have a sustainer or SL, and are uncertain whether it will get you all the way back, you might want to consider climbing until the fuel or volts are depleted and then seeing where you can get from that height.

A big consideration for arrival over a landable place if not in a pure glider is allowing extra height to safely try the engine/motor.
Eric Greenwell published a handbook for this ages ago. It's called "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation". Much of it is still valid for even FES. The attitude that there's no guarantee is an important part of operating a sustainer or SLSP, even electrics.
Jim

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:16:19 PM UTC-7, Ken wrote:
On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 2:23:49 PM UTC-4, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 12:05:01 PM UTC-7, 5Z wrote:
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 10:15:14 AM UTC-7, danlj wrote:
Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...photo-17611397

And the homeowner complaints sounds like a mental anguish lawsuit is brewing.... Sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUm2BYP_P4

Good lesson for anyone. Stress causes reactions others may not understand. Both the Dip **** pilot (doesn't he have ballistic chute, properly trained...) was shook up and stressed as was the family. I can understand why the pilot was only caring about his glasses, he was rattled and may have had his little brain slammed against his thick skull. Little kids are frightened by many things, so are big kids. So don't judge )

Calling the pilot a Dip **** and then Saying " So don't judge" makes you sound like a Dip ****!

Sigh, satire is lost for the literal and the limited. I am not the one who lawn darted a glider with ballistic chute into a house with kids. Pilots will forever be critical of fellow "pilots" who make stupid mistakes. Obviously my comments about not judging actions of other was after the post crash behavior. You are judging me, how does it feel?

Don’t worry, uninformed speculation by morons is pretty much the standard on here, as is assigning blame without any evidence.

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 4:16:19 PM UTC-7, Ken wrote:
On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 2:23:49 PM UTC-4, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 12:05:01 PM UTC-7, 5Z wrote:
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 10:15:14 AM UTC-7, danlj wrote:
Another news story
https://m.newstimes.com/local/articl...photo-17611397

And the homeowner complaints sounds like a mental anguish lawsuit is brewing.... Sigh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUm2BYP_P4

Good lesson for anyone. Stress causes reactions others may not understand. Both the Dip **** pilot (doesn't he have ballistic chute, properly trained...) was shook up and stressed as was the family. I can understand why the pilot was only caring about his glasses, he was rattled and may have had his little brain slammed against his thick skull. Little kids are frightened by many things, so are big kids. So don't judge )

Calling the pilot a Dip **** and then Saying " So don't judge" makes you sound like a Dip ****!

Dear Ken, humor might not be your strong suit. Both irony and satire are forms of humor lost too many. Have a nice day good sir. And remember don't judge