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Old July 25th 19, 11:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 2:58:23 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote:
FAR 91.707
Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person may operate a civil aircraft between Mexico or Canada and the United States without filing an IFR or VFR flight plan, as appropriate.

You don’t need a clearance to enter US airspace Tom. Just file a VFR flight plan. There’s no ADIZ between Canada and the US by the way.

Personally I think you’re jealous....


LOL! Jealous? Hardly.

Based on what I read on the FAA's website, a landing at a port of entry was required, which Chester did not do. It is the FAA's website that is, apparently, wrong or inaccurate. I am awaiting a call back from my local FSDO on this issue.

Tom
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Old July 25th 19, 11:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Charles Longley
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

Pretty sure they’ll find no wrong doing. Having said that. You are a total dick!
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Old July 26th 19, 01:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 3:43:11 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote:
Pretty sure they’ll find no wrong doing. Having said that. You are a total dick!


And it's been a pleasure talking with you, too!
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Old July 26th 19, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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"Based on what I read on the FAA's website, a landing at a port of entry was required"


Are they giving you a tow as well for your flight back to CA, after you've landed and cleared your customs?
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Old July 26th 19, 08:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 5:07:18 PM UTC-6, Marton KSz wrote:
"Based on what I read on the FAA's website, a landing at a port of entry was required"


Are they giving you a tow as well for your flight back to CA, after you've landed and cleared your customs?


https://www.schempp-hirth.com/en/sai...arcus/arcus-m/

Smarten up.
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Old July 26th 19, 12:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul T[_4_]
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

At 22:10 25 July 2019, 2G wrote:
On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 2:58:23 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley

wrote:
FAR 91.707
Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person may operate a

civil
aircraf=
t between Mexico or Canada and the United States without filing an

IFR or
V=
FR flight plan, as appropriate.
=20
You don=E2=80=99t need a clearance to enter US airspace

Tom. Just file a
=
VFR flight plan. There=E2=80=99s no ADIZ between Canada and

the US by the
w=
ay.
=20
Personally I think you=E2=80=99re jealous....


LOL! Jealous? Hardly.

Based on what I read on the FAA's website, a landing at a port of

entry
was=
required, which Chester did not do. It is the FAA's website that is,
appar=
ently, wrong or inaccurate. I am awaiting a call back from my local

FSDO
on=
this issue.

Tom


What a total dickhead -FFS what does it matter to you? - still
grieving over 1812?, some Canuck did you wrong in the past??.....
with guys like you around no wonder soaring is in decline.



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Old July 26th 19, 01:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 4:15:05 PM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
At 22:10 25 July 2019, 2G wrote:
On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 2:58:23 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley

wrote:
FAR 91.707
Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person may operate a

civil
aircraf=
t between Mexico or Canada and the United States without filing an

IFR or
V=
FR flight plan, as appropriate.
=20
You don=E2=80=99t need a clearance to enter US airspace

Tom. Just file a
=
VFR flight plan. There=E2=80=99s no ADIZ between Canada and

the US by the
w=
ay.
=20
Personally I think you=E2=80=99re jealous....


LOL! Jealous? Hardly.

Based on what I read on the FAA's website, a landing at a port of

entry
was=
required, which Chester did not do. It is the FAA's website that is,
appar=
ently, wrong or inaccurate. I am awaiting a call back from my local

FSDO
on=
this issue.

Tom


What a total dickhead -FFS what does it matter to you? - still
grieving over 1812?, some Canuck did you wrong in the past??.....
with guys like you around no wonder soaring is in decline.


Following the FARs is not optional. Pilots who violate them can impact ALL of us, including you. I wonder how that inspector will react when you call him/her a "dickhead?"
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Old July 26th 19, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

Dickhead. Are you waiting for a response from the FSDO so you can tattle? At least he went back to where he came from, and by choice. Different situation down here on the southern border of the US.
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Old July 26th 19, 03:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

Welllll.....Â* I think it was a pretty decent flight.Â* Congrats!

And, as to landing at a port of entry to clear customs, I'd bet that's
only required if you intend to land in the country, not fly over it.

On 7/25/2019 7:17 PM, wrote:
Dickhead. Are you waiting for a response from the FSDO so you can tattle? At least he went back to where he came from, and by choice. Different situation down here on the southern border of the US.


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Dan, 5J
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Old July 26th 19, 09:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Marton KSz
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Default Canadian pilot posts ILLEGAL flight into US on OLC

Dan, 5J

And, as to landing at a port of entry to clear customs, I'd bet that's
only required if you intend to land in the country, not fly over it.


My understanding is the same; there is a difference between 'entering the U..S.' and 'flying in U.S. airspace'.
International airports are good examples to represent these two concepts: "The international zone in an international airport is the area where arriving international passengers have not formally entered the country by clearing arrival customs and immigration controls" - but they flew through the airspace, for sure.
 




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