Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

So that would come out to, what, 0.4%?

Ok, I have to admit, you made me laugh out loud with that one.

France has some of the worst English instruction, although all the
Latin countries of Europe are very poor in English.

Of course they do, teaching English would be tantamount to admitting
that the French lost their 500-year-old ****ing contest with England
started by King Henry VIII's lack of male sperm.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
news
People can study a language for years without learning it.

Mostly, they find their instructor is incompetent long before they spend
years studying.

Incompetant people can claim to teach it without any of their students
actually learning anything. Fortunately, unless the teacher impersonater is
exceedingly stupid, they realize that they're not making the same amount of
money as the real teachers and find something else to do.

France has some of the worst English instruction

I don't doubt it. I suspect there are no real standards one must meet in
order to claim to be an english teacher in France.

"EridanMan" wrote in message
ups.com...
So that would come out to, what, 0.4%?

Ok, I have to admit, you made me laugh out loud with that one.

France has some of the worst English instruction, although all the
Latin countries of Europe are very poor in English.

Of course they do, teaching English would be tantamount to admitting
that the French lost their 500-year-old ****ing contest with England
started by King Henry VIII's lack of male sperm.


???


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:17:36 +0300, "Snowbird"
mangled uncounted electrons thus:


"Mxsmanic" wrote

and they all speak perfect english

Germans who speak perfect English are extremely rare.

Not among aviators. Not as regards aviation language.

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

grin You all overlook the fact that English speaking perfect
English are also extremely rare...

Martin D. Pay
Yes, I'm English - and I frequently wonder at the atrocities
perpetrated on our mother-tongue by my fellow citizens...

Martin D. Pay wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:17:36 +0300, "Snowbird"
mangled uncounted electrons thus:
Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

grin You all overlook the fact that English speaking perfect
English are also extremely rare...

Martin D. Pay
Yes, I'm English - and I frequently wonder at the atrocities
perpetrated on our mother-tongue by my fellow citizens...

So what is the "Perfect English" way to pronounce "tomato"?
Is "ain't" considered a word in "Perfect English"?
For that matter, which accent is "Perfect English"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regiona...glish_speakers
http://www.otago.ac.nz/anthropology/...ds/Sounds.html
http://www.collectbritain.co.uk/collections/dialects/

And just who defines "Perfect English" and what is their e-mail address?

(Big wink on all the above.)

On Jul 5, 11:22 pm, "El Maximo" wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message

...

A lot. I live in a cosmopolitan city and I teach languages

Languages, plural? Somehow I thing you're lying again.

His knowledge of language/s excludes comprehension of his own

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
JohnT writes:

How many German people do you know?

A lot. I live in a cosmopolitan city and I teach languages, so I meet
German
people all the time and have a good idea of their English competence.
Perfect
English is extraordinarily rare among Germans, just as it is among other
non-English-speaking groups.


Perfect English is extraordinarily rare among people whose native language
it is. I haven't fully mastered my own language and, certainly, you haven't
either. So it is difficult to ascertain wht point you are attempting to
make. BTW, what are your qualifications for teaching languages?
--

JohnT

On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:29:23 -0000, EridanMan wrote:

Of course they do, teaching English would be tantamount to admitting
that the French lost their 500-year-old ****ing contest with England
started by King Henry VIII's lack of male sperm.

Hmmm. I think you must be using a very specific definition of "England" and
"France". There's been history between the inhabitants of modern-day England
and France over the last 1000 years or so.

DaveM

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:41:56 -0700, NotABushSupporter wrote:

Snowbird wrote:

Anyway, Englishmen who speak perfect German are even rarer.

Perhaps if Germany had won the war, it would be more important to them.

Of course it would. After all, it would be needed to conduct business in the
USA.

DaveM

EridanMan wrote:

Of course, in the same breath that Mx is criticizing you guys, he is
committing the same fallacy- asserting that French is an international
language on a par with English... The only people in the world who
hold French in that regard are the French, in their classic
nationalistic delusion of relevance

It should be noted, that my US passport is in English and ...... guess
what? Oh yeah, French! I know this is true for at least some other
countries.