A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Piloting
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

gun discharge in cockpit.



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #121  
Old March 26th 08, 10:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt W. Barrow
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 427
Default OT gun discharge in cockpit.


"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message
...
Dan wrote:
On Mar 26, 1:13 pm, "Jon Woellhaf" wrote:
I fired it without a recoil pad.

Once.

Never again!

I've never seen or heard of anyone firing this in any other position
than prone, with a bi or tripod and recoil pad.


Can I ask.. what were you thinking??!?!?


No kidding. Are you able to use your arm yet.

The Semi-Auto version isn't near as bad.


Many moons ago I was at a range shooting a 300 Win Mag, when I got into a
conversation with an older gentleman who was shooting a 58 Sharps. He
offered, with a gleam in his eye, to have me try it. He said "It's kicks a
mite!".

No kidding! I fired one shot, then went 20 yards behind the firing line to
retrieve my right arm and shoulder.

Now, I'm 6'2" and was about 200-205 lbs when this happened, and I was
thinking that, during the buffalo hunting days, the average man was about
5'7" to 5'9" and about 155-160 lbs. Just how in the hell did those guys
survive more than a few rounds with that thing?



  #122  
Old March 26th 08, 11:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan[_10_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 650
Default OT gun discharge in cockpit.

On Mar 26, 6:54 pm, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:


Many moons ago I was at a range shooting a 300 Win Mag, when I got into a
conversation with an older gentleman who was shooting a 58 Sharps. He
offered, with a gleam in his eye, to have me try it. He said "It's kicks a
mite!".


..300 Win Mag -- how many elephants you need in your trophy room?!?

I shoot a 30-06 because it's the hardest kicking rifle I can shoot all
day long. Any bigger and after a box I'm done.


Now, I'm 6'2" and was about 200-205 lbs when this happened, and I was
thinking that, during the buffalo hunting days, the average man was about
5'7" to 5'9" and about 155-160 lbs. Just how in the hell did those guys
survive more than a few rounds with that thing?



Seriously?

Big Wool Sweaters.

Look at the stocks on those things -- it didn't take an 19th Century
buffalo guy long to figure he could stuff something behind that nasty
butt and avoid tendon damage, yet still have a good sight picture.


Dan Mc
  #123  
Old March 27th 08, 01:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jon Woellhaf
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 221
Default OT gun discharge in cockpit.

I didn't want to appear to be a wimp. Yes, there were girls watching. And my
son. And everyone else at the range. (INDOOR range, by the way.)

My shoulder was back to normal in less than a week. I was hoping for a huge
bruise, but all I got was a little raspberry and a couple nicks. Not even
worth a photo.

I saw on TV several women shooting LOTS of .50 rounds with an auto feeder.
As I recall, they started at 200 yards, moved to 600, then moved to 1000. It
was the first time one of them had shot ANY rifle! Amazing. After seeing
that, I guess I thought it couldn't kick all that much. The semi-auto must
have much less recoil.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message
...
Dan wrote:
On Mar 26, 1:13 pm, "Jon Woellhaf" wrote:
I fired it without a recoil pad.

Once.

Never again!

I've never seen or heard of anyone firing this in any other position
than prone, with a bi or tripod and recoil pad.


Can I ask.. what were you thinking??!?!?


No kidding. Are you able to use your arm yet.

The Semi-Auto version isn't near as bad.



  #124  
Old March 27th 08, 01:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Rich Ahrens[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 404
Default gun discharge in cockpit.

on 3/25/2008 12:46 PM Phil J said the following:
On Mar 24, 12:07 pm, "gatt" wrote:
http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/...-sjf-gunonplan...

Awfer... there went that experiment.

" CHARLOTTE, N.C.-- A gun carried by a US Airways pilot accidentally
discharged during a flight from Denver to Charlotte Saturday, according to a
statement released by the airline...."

-c


This was no accident. The pilot was a huge Elvis fan, and he really
didn't like the weather his glass panel was showing him.


And this was no accident either:

http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=112401

Nice drill there, pal...
  #125  
Old March 27th 08, 02:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt W. Barrow
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 427
Default OT gun discharge in cockpit.


"Dan" wrote in message
...
On Mar 26, 6:54 pm, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:


Many moons ago I was at a range shooting a 300 Win Mag, when I got into a
conversation with an older gentleman who was shooting a 58 Sharps. He
offered, with a gleam in his eye, to have me try it. He said "It's kicks
a
mite!".


.300 Win Mag -- how many elephants you need in your trophy room?!?


Actually, it was my moose gun. If I was going for elephant, I'd pick up no
lessthan a .375 H&H. Now, I recall that the old hunting writer Jack O'Connor
hunted everything under the sun with a .270, but Jack had cajones as big as
church bells.


I shoot a 30-06 because it's the hardest kicking rifle I can shoot all
day long. Any bigger and after a box I'm done.


For testing loads or sighting in, I put a sandbag between the buttplate and
my shoulder. I've shot 60 rounds of .300 Winny in a day with no (apparent)
adverse effect (other than scrambling my brains, as some here would attest).



Now, I'm 6'2" and was about 200-205 lbs when this happened, and I was
thinking that, during the buffalo hunting days, the average man was about
5'7" to 5'9" and about 155-160 lbs. Just how in the hell did those guys
survive more than a few rounds with that thing?



Seriously?

Big Wool Sweaters.

Look at the stocks on those things -- it didn't take an 19th Century
buffalo guy long to figure he could stuff something behind that nasty
butt and avoid tendon damage, yet still have a good sight picture.


Even still, those were some tough hombres'.



  #126  
Old March 27th 08, 02:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt W. Barrow
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 427
Default OT gun discharge in cockpit.


"Jon Woellhaf" wrote in message
. ..
I didn't want to appear to be a wimp. Yes, there were girls watching. And
my son. And everyone else at the range. (INDOOR range, by the way.)

My shoulder was back to normal in less than a week. I was hoping for a
huge bruise, but all I got was a little raspberry and a couple nicks. Not
even worth a photo.

I saw on TV several women shooting LOTS of .50 rounds with an auto feeder.
As I recall, they started at 200 yards, moved to 600, then moved to 1000.
It was the first time one of them had shot ANY rifle! Amazing. After
seeing that, I guess I thought it couldn't kick all that much. The
semi-auto must have much less recoil.


http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_82.aspx (Barrett M82A/M107)

With the muzzle brake and the gas operation, it supposedly kicks about like
a 7mm Mag in a full sized bolt action.

It's 30 pound weight helps, too.





  #129  
Old March 27th 08, 03:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Big John
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 310
Default gun discharge in cockpit.

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:15:35 -0700 (PDT), Dan
wrote:

On Mar 26, 8:32 am, Clark wrote:

As designed the 1911 & 1911A1 do not have firing pin blocks. As far as I know
only the Model 80 Colt 1911 has a firing pin block. There may be/probably are
other pistols based on the 1911 design that have firing pin blocks but do not
count on any 1911 form pistol to have a firing pin block.



I think you're right (though the last time I tore down a 1911 was
1990).

They are fine pistols, I just can't feel the same attachment so many
do (to the point of veneration).

Maybe it's due to so many awful, old, worn issue versions I fired.



Dan Mc

*******************************************

Dan Mc

I'm one who is attached to the 45.

I started shooting it in 1941, in the military, and shot expert every
time I qualified until I retired in 1972. This included the range guns
that sounded like a bunch of rocks in a tin can when they were shaken.

After I retired, I purchased a new 45 and have it as a home protection
gun.

My procedure is to remove the magazine and lock the slide open. Then
visually inspect the barrel to see that it is empty. I then close the
slide and pointing toward the roof I snap the trigger. I then put the
magazine back in the handle and gun back in my bed side table. No
rounds are left in barrel.

If I were to hear someone breaking into my house I would pick up gun
and jack the slide, putting a round in barrel and slide in battery and
gun cocked.

If needed I would then be able to fire the whole magazine of rounds. I
use frangible bullets so that they will not penetrate a standard wall.

When gun is hot, I keep my trigger finger outside the trigger guard
and along side the side of the gun until I plan on firing.

After going hot and I need to unload gun, I go through the same
procedure to make it cold, clean if fired and set up again in bedside
table.

This is a never change procedure and I feel very comfortable with the
safety of it having used it for years.

Big John
  #130  
Old March 27th 08, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Ousterhout[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 36
Default gun discharge in cockpit.

Rich Ahrens wrote:
on 3/25/2008 12:46 PM Phil J said the following:
On Mar 24, 12:07 pm, "gatt" wrote:
http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/...-sjf-gunonplan...

Awfer... there went that experiment.

" CHARLOTTE, N.C.-- A gun carried by a US Airways pilot accidentally
discharged during a flight from Denver to Charlotte Saturday,
according to a
statement released by the airline...."

-c


This was no accident. The pilot was a huge Elvis fan, and he really
didn't like the weather his glass panel was showing him.


And this was no accident either:

http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=112401

Nice drill there, pal...


Geez! Doesn't everyone know that you're supposed to use a 38 claiber
handgun to make holes for coax?

- J.O.-




 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Static Discharge gman Piloting 12 March 24th 07 07:56 PM
IFR static discharge [email protected] Home Built 0 April 2nd 06 08:06 PM
The Vanishing Honorable Discharge Otis Willie Naval Aviation 0 October 29th 04 02:58 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.