Landing without flaps

Dan wrote:
On Mar 6, 7:54 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Make sure the dogs aren't too small. They're using Perigrin Falcons now
for bird control. The falcons LOVE fresh meat!! :-))

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Dudley Henriques

OK, story time...

Way back (1981) when I was an NCO working on various items used as
props in Dr Strangelove, we had guys riding mowers all over the
storage igloos cutting the grass. The problem was, all maintenance had
to cease since while they had clearances, they weren't cleared high
enough to see inside while we did our thing.

The Air Force had a suggestion program (you could earn up to $200
bucks if they accepted the suggestion and implemented it).

My suggestion was that the Air Force replace the mower guys with
sheep.

The benefits would be that the sheep would provide wool for us to use
to get through those cold Northern Tier winters, the sheep would not
require security clearances, and the sheep would be non-polluting.

I expected it to go as far as the Squadron CO, get a talking-to, and
that would be it.

Three months later a letter arrived from the Department of the Air
Force, The Pentagon.

After researching the suggestion, they determined that the only reason
they could not implement the sheep-as-mowers idea was that if the
storage areas were attacked, the attackers could hide behind the
sheep.

Otherwise, they determined it was a "plausible concept, simply
infeasible given the security concerns."

After the mirth subsided, I read through the levels involved in making
this determination. We figured that piece of paper cost the Air Force
about 1/2 a million bucks in manpower.

It was a lesson on how far a stupid idea will go trhough a
bureacracy..



Dan.










The sheep sounds like a great idea to me. I think I would have
considered it even with the security issue which I think was a bit of a
stretch.
As a matter of fact, I think this idea might even be useful in getting
me out of yard work; although I have to admit, it might be hard
considering Mrs H's intelligence, to "pull the wool over her eyes" on
this one :-))

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Dudley Henriques

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Dan wrote:
On Mar 6, 7:54 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Make sure the dogs aren't too small. They're using Perigrin Falcons now
for bird control. The falcons LOVE fresh meat!! :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

OK, story time...

Way back (1981) when I was an NCO working on various items used as
props in Dr Strangelove, we had guys riding mowers all over the
storage igloos cutting the grass. The problem was, all maintenance had
to cease since while they had clearances, they weren't cleared high
enough to see inside while we did our thing.

The Air Force had a suggestion program (you could earn up to $200
bucks if they accepted the suggestion and implemented it).

My suggestion was that the Air Force replace the mower guys with
sheep.

The benefits would be that the sheep would provide wool for us to use
to get through those cold Northern Tier winters, the sheep would not
require security clearances, and the sheep would be non-polluting.

I expected it to go as far as the Squadron CO, get a talking-to, and
that would be it.

Three months later a letter arrived from the Department of the Air
Force, The Pentagon.

After researching the suggestion, they determined that the only reason
they could not implement the sheep-as-mowers idea was that if the
storage areas were attacked, the attackers could hide behind the
sheep.

Otherwise, they determined it was a "plausible concept, simply
infeasible given the security concerns."

After the mirth subsided, I read through the levels involved in making
this determination. We figured that piece of paper cost the Air Force
about 1/2 a million bucks in manpower.

It was a lesson on how far a stupid idea will go trhough a
bureacracy..



Dan.










The sheep sounds like a great idea to me. I think I would have considered
it even with the security issue which I think was a bit of a stretch.
As a matter of fact, I think this idea might even be useful in getting me
out of yard work; although I have to admit, it might be hard considering
Mrs H's intelligence, to "pull the wool over her eyes" on this one :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

I swear that I remember being told, as a boy, that sheep had been used in
this manner to "mow the lawn of the White House" during World War II

Whether that was actually true or not, they were so used during World War I
according to these web pages:
http://www.american-lawns.com/history/history_lawn.html and
http://www.landscape-america.com/his...tory_lawn.html

Peter

Peter Dohm wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Dan wrote:
On Mar 6, 7:54 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Make sure the dogs aren't too small. They're using Perigrin Falcons now
for bird control. The falcons LOVE fresh meat!! :-))

--
Dudley Henriques
OK, story time...

Way back (1981) when I was an NCO working on various items used as
props in Dr Strangelove, we had guys riding mowers all over the
storage igloos cutting the grass. The problem was, all maintenance had
to cease since while they had clearances, they weren't cleared high
enough to see inside while we did our thing.

The Air Force had a suggestion program (you could earn up to $200
bucks if they accepted the suggestion and implemented it).

My suggestion was that the Air Force replace the mower guys with
sheep.

The benefits would be that the sheep would provide wool for us to use
to get through those cold Northern Tier winters, the sheep would not
require security clearances, and the sheep would be non-polluting.

I expected it to go as far as the Squadron CO, get a talking-to, and
that would be it.

Three months later a letter arrived from the Department of the Air
Force, The Pentagon.

After researching the suggestion, they determined that the only reason
they could not implement the sheep-as-mowers idea was that if the
storage areas were attacked, the attackers could hide behind the
sheep.

Otherwise, they determined it was a "plausible concept, simply
infeasible given the security concerns."

After the mirth subsided, I read through the levels involved in making
this determination. We figured that piece of paper cost the Air Force
about 1/2 a million bucks in manpower.

It was a lesson on how far a stupid idea will go trhough a
bureacracy..



Dan.










The sheep sounds like a great idea to me. I think I would have considered
it even with the security issue which I think was a bit of a stretch.
As a matter of fact, I think this idea might even be useful in getting me
out of yard work; although I have to admit, it might be hard considering
Mrs H's intelligence, to "pull the wool over her eyes" on this one :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

I swear that I remember being told, as a boy, that sheep had been used in
this manner to "mow the lawn of the White House" during World War II

Whether that was actually true or not, they were so used during World War I
according to these web pages:
http://www.american-lawns.com/history/history_lawn.html and
http://www.landscape-america.com/his...tory_lawn.html

Peter




You might be right. I recall reading something about sheep and grass
control myself but I can't remember the details.

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Dudley Henriques

Owner wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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buttman wrote:
On Mar 6, 3:13 pm, "Owner" wrote:
"buttman" wrote in message

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On Mar 6, 2:40 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
The posts you made concerning pulling mixture on take off involved a
single engine airplane and a primary student. No competent instructor
does this REGARDLESS of the runway remaining.
The fact that you are actually defending this idiotic and incompetent
procedure is all I need to support my initial judgment of you as a
CFI.
Your feeble attempts at portraying me in the light of a "know it all"
and a "blow hard" would seem to fly in the face of what I see from
others (Ken Tucker excepted of course) concerning your judgment on
this
matter as well.
In other words, it appears that you have a judgment
problem...something
not desirable in a CFI.
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Dudley Henriques
Did you not read the 5 paragraph post that you just quoted? Obviously
you didn't as you continue to say I pulled the mixture. It wasn't the
mixture, it was the fuel valve!
In my post I addressed my reasoning for coming to the stance I take on
this issue. I do not necessarily "support" doing that particular
maneuver.
What I do support the idea that things like pulling the fuel
valve (or anything else for that matter) CAN be done safely as long as
the proper precautions are made.
Wow, what a load of crap, but what would one expect from someone known
as
buttman?

Since you're not willing to follow
along, it only proves that you are indeed nothing but a blowhard who
is full of himself.
The thread I made over a year ago was intended to solicit the help of
this group in preparing myself for something I thought my students
could benefit from. The only thing people wanted to do was act self-
righteous, which is exactly what you're continuing to do right now.
HHHUUURRR

wow they're really coming out of the wooodwork this afrernoon.
Yes. Isn't it amazing how many disagree with you and/or believe you are
wrong......and isn't it amazing how you can't seem to be able to entertain
the idea that there are people on this forum who know more than you do.
So far I see not one supporter for your idiotic assertions.
Good God man, get out of the CFI business before you kill some innocent
student.

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Dudley Henriques

If' this is the kind of CFI that's teaching today's young pilots, then maybe
it's time to take the prop off my Tiger and hang it in my office

Fortunately, this guy is an odyssey. In 50 years being exposed to CFI's
of all makes and models, this idiot stands out as unique. I've never
come across an instructor who not only does what this guy claims to do
with students, but who when told it's wrong, attacks the pilots
correcting him.
Pilots like this guy are an accident waiting to happen. I only hope it
doesn't happen to him.
The positive side is that what usually happens with people like this is
that after they shoot off their mouth on Usenet telling off the pilots
who disagree with them, they usually sulk on back to the hangar and
never do again what they were taken out to the shed for.
If this is the result, I'm thoroughly satisfied.


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Dudley Henriques

On Mar 6, 8:21 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
The sheep sounds like a great idea to me. I think I would have
considered it even with the security issue which I think was a bit of a
stretch.
As a matter of fact, I think this idea might even be useful in getting
me out of yard work; although I have to admit, it might be hard
considering Mrs H's intelligence, to "pull the wool over her eyes" on
this one :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

2 1/2 of our four acres are under pasture with two 1000 lb lawn
mowers.

Once in a while we strap a saddle to their backs and ride 'em.

Best thing I ever did, putting up that fence. Now the lawn mowing that
used to take 3 hours is done in 30 minutes.

Dan

Dan wrote:
On Mar 6, 8:21 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
The sheep sounds like a great idea to me. I think I would have
considered it even with the security issue which I think was a bit of a
stretch.
As a matter of fact, I think this idea might even be useful in getting
me out of yard work; although I have to admit, it might be hard
considering Mrs H's intelligence, to "pull the wool over her eyes" on
this one :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

2 1/2 of our four acres are under pasture with two 1000 lb lawn
mowers.

Once in a while we strap a saddle to their backs and ride 'em.

Best thing I ever did, putting up that fence. Now the lawn mowing that
used to take 3 hours is done in 30 minutes.

Dan

Sounds like you are enjoying the country life :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

On Mar 6, 9:30 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:


Sounds like you are enjoying the country life :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

Land stretching out for miles and miles.
Keep Manhattan just give me that country style.

:-)

Dan

Dan wrote:
On Mar 6, 9:30 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:

Sounds like you are enjoying the country life :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

Land stretching out for miles and miles.
Keep Manhattan just give me that country style.

:-)

Dan


Mrs H and I drove all the way across the country with no plan at all.
Took in the parks and drove the high dessert. Loved every minute of it.
Walked in the moonlight up in Bryce Canyon. Once out there you could see
the stars...millions of them. Beautiful. They are hidden in the big
cities pollution and haze and reflected lights.
Got to do that trip again :-))

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Dudley Henriques

Dan wrote:
My suggestion was that the Air Force replace the mower guys with
sheep.

If you had suggested goats your idea might have been implemented.
;-)

Jim Logajan wrote:
Dan wrote:
My suggestion was that the Air Force replace the mower guys with
sheep.

If you had suggested goats your idea might have been implemented.
;-)

Knowing how the Air Force works, I'm fairly sure this might have been
"rammed" right on through :-))

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Dudley Henriques