gun discharge in cockpit.

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Dan
wrote:

On Mar 28, 5:11 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:
The fact is MOST people who own handguns can't hit the side of a house
over 20 yards -- how do I know this? Spend a day at any range. And
those are the people actually practicing.

Is this house on this fictional firing range, is it 1 foot wide..or
less?

You are actually going to argue that "MOST people who own handguns"
can consistently group within 1' at 20 yards?

I'll be more than happy to show you the target end of any range.

In the meantime try posting something of value.


Dan Mc
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Dan

Went to range and shot the center out of the bulls eye with my 45 and
one box of reloaded shells. 90% of rounds were within 4 inches of
center.

Brought home and tacked to front door with a sign that said "This
house is protected".

Lots of comments but no break ins.

Big John

Big John" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Dan
wrote:

Dan

Went to range and shot the center out of the bulls eye with my 45 and
one box of reloaded shells. 90% of rounds were within 4 inches of
center.

At what range? Seven yards? 50 feet?


Brought home and tacked to front door with a sign that said "This
house is protected".

Lots of comments but no break ins.

Not too many burglars are suicidal! :~)

I used to have a sign in the front yard said, "Security by ADT", to which my
son attached a second sign, "Backed up by Mossberg".

On Mar 29, 11:15 am, Matt Whiting wrote:

That's a fact. And the people here know how to shoot. And some of us
also know how to fly! :-)

I'm sure they do -- I'm near Pittsburgh so on opening day the hoardes
swarm down...

One local went through TWO BOXES of .270 ammo on opening day -- yet
didn't get a deer.

Go figure.

Tioga county borders the West branch, i think.

My son and I canoed the West Branch from Clearfield to Sunbury, then
there to Harrisburg. Until Renovo it's some gorgeous country.


Dan Mc

On Mar 29, 5:58 pm, Big John wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Dan
wrote:



On Mar 28, 5:11 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:
The fact is MOST people who own handguns can't hit the side of a house
over 20 yards -- how do I know this? Spend a day at any range. And
those are the people actually practicing.

Is this house on this fictional firing range, is it 1 foot wide..or
less?

You are actually going to argue that "MOST people who own handguns"
can consistently group within 1' at 20 yards?

I'll be more than happy to show you the target end of any range.

In the meantime try posting something of value.

Dan Mc

**********************************************

Dan

Went to range and shot the center out of the bulls eye with my 45 and
one box of reloaded shells. 90% of rounds were within 4 inches of
center.

Brought home and tacked to front door with a sign that said "This
house is protected".

Lots of comments but no break ins.

Big John

That's the way to do it!

We're fortunate in that we have a few acres so practice on our own
little pistol range. If we go up the hill behind us we can shoot
skeet.

We practice often enough that any locals who even think about coming
around move on to easier pickins.

Dan Mc

Jay Maynard wrote in
:

On 2008-03-29, Dan wrote:
You're such a genius -- Please do tell the significant differences
between the two calibers.

One need look no farther than the IPSC power factor calculation.
Typically, it's around 120 to 125 for 9mm Parabellum, and upwards of
170 for .40 S&W. I'll happily trade one or two rounds for that kind of
increase in power. To me, .40 S&W represents the best tradeoff between
power and capacity.

I can;'t beleive you idiots are talking about what makes ya "more dead"

Bertie

Martin Hotze wrote in news:fsm17k$k54$1
@kirk.hotze.com:

Dan schrieb:

The fundamental rules for safe gun handling a

Bottom line -- only point it at things you don't mind killing.


or even better: stay away from weapons.

#m


What's a safe distance? How far should one be from a V2 impact to be safe,
for instance?


Bertie

Big John wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT), Dan
wrote:

On Mar 28, 5:11 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:
The fact is MOST people who own handguns can't hit the side of a house
over 20 yards -- how do I know this? Spend a day at any range. And
those are the people actually practicing.
Is this house on this fictional firing range, is it 1 foot wide..or
less?
You are actually going to argue that "MOST people who own handguns"
can consistently group within 1' at 20 yards?

I'll be more than happy to show you the target end of any range.

In the meantime try posting something of value.


Dan Mc
**********************************************

Dan

Went to range and shot the center out of the bulls eye with my 45 and
one box of reloaded shells. 90% of rounds were within 4 inches of
center.

Brought home and tacked to front door with a sign that said "This
house is protected".

Lots of comments but no break ins.

Big John

I still have a t-shirt showing a hand holding a handgun and the caption
says:


"I don't dial 911"

I used to draw some strange looks when I wore that in public.

Matt

On Mar 29, 10:21 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I can;'t beleive you idiots are talking about what makes ya "more dead"

Bertie

Nope, not even the point.

If you shoot someone with a 22, they can do a great deal of harm
before they even know they have been hit.

With a larger, more high velocity caliber, they will probably stop
doing whatever it is that they are doing -- like breaking down the
door to your daughter's bedroom, carjacking your wife's car, or coming
at you with a knife.

So it does matter.

If you don't carry, that's fine.

Some of us prefer to and some have more reason than others.

Kinda like flying.


Dan Mc

On Mar 29, 10:22 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

What's a safe distance? How far should one be from a V2 impact to be safe,
for instance?

Bertie

Know your target and what's behind it. Most ranges use Berms of earth
as back stops.

Stay away from the business end and you're safe.

And what does a V2 (a weapon that hasn't been used in 63 years) have
to do with it?


Dan Mc

Dan wrote in news:2e952ccc-9f9e-4717-b469-
:

On Mar 29, 10:21 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I can;'t beleive you idiots are talking about what makes ya "more
dead"

Bertie

Nope, not even the point.


Depends onwehether you're the one being shot at.

It might not be the point for you, but there's two ends of a gun.


If you shoot someone with a 22, they can do a great deal of harm
before they even know they have been hit.

With a larger, more high velocity caliber, they will probably stop
doing whatever it is that they are doing -- like breaking down the
door to your daughter's bedroom, carjacking your wife's car, or coming
at you with a knife.

So it does matter.

If you don't carry, that's fine.


I have guns. been through this before. With maxwell and matt, s a matter
of fact.

Some of us prefer to and some have more reason than others.

Kinda like flying.


Except I kinda lost track of th elast time I pointed an airplane at
someone with intent.


Bertie