FAA releases final report on changes to amateur-built aircraft rules

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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The PDF document of the committee's final report is he


http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/u...008_report.pdf

Some years ago I read that the reason for the requirement that the
majority of work building an experimental/homebuilt aircraft was to
insure the builder "learned" something. That it was to be an educational
experience. Can't find any mention of it today. It used to be they same
for amateur radio as well. We actually built radios, antennas from plans
and schematics and at a later time from Heathkits, etc. Does anyone else
remember the educational requirement and if so when it was no longer
mentioned?

--
A man is known by the company he keeps- Unknown

Anyolmouse

Anyolmouse wrote:

Some years ago I read that the reason for the requirement that the
majority of work building an experimental/homebuilt aircraft was to
insure the builder "learned" something. That it was to be an educational
experience. Can't find any mention of it today. It used to be they same
for amateur radio as well. We actually built radios, antennas from plans
and schematics and at a later time from Heathkits, etc. Does anyone else
remember the educational requirement and if so when it was no longer
mentioned?

I don't believe there was ever solely a education requirement.

The 51% rule came about because some folks were taking production
airplanes, modifying them, and registering them a Experimental
Amateur-Built. The Nelson N-4 was an example:

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs...elson.n14n.jpg

Basically, it was a cut-down J-3, converted to a shoulder-wing single
seater.

Probably wasn't that big of a deal when it was just an occasional owner,
but I suspect some folks started doing this commercially as a way to
bypass the STC process. Hence the requirement that the majority of the
construction had to be done for "Education or Recreation."

Ron Wanttaja

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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Anyolmouse wrote:

Some years ago I read that the reason for the requirement that the
majority of work building an experimental/homebuilt aircraft was to
insure the builder "learned" something. That it was to be an
educational
experience. Can't find any mention of it today. It used to be they
same
for amateur radio as well. We actually built radios, antennas from
plans
and schematics and at a later time from Heathkits, etc. Does anyone
else
remember the educational requirement and if so when it was no longer
mentioned?

I don't believe there was ever solely a education requirement.

The 51% rule came about because some folks were taking production
airplanes, modifying them, and registering them a Experimental
Amateur-Built. The Nelson N-4 was an example:

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs...elson.n14n.jpg

Basically, it was a cut-down J-3, converted to a shoulder-wing single
seater.

Probably wasn't that big of a deal when it was just an occasional
owner,
but I suspect some folks started doing this commercially as a way to
bypass the STC process. Hence the requirement that the majority of
the
construction had to be done for "Education or Recreation."

Ron Wanttaja

Thanks for replying-

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We have met the enemy and he is us-- Pogo

Anyolmouse

On Sep 25, 8:51*am, "Anyolmouse" wrote:
"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message

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Anyolmouse wrote:

Some years ago I read that the reason for the requirement that the
majority of work building an experimental/homebuilt aircraft was to
insure the builder "learned" something. That it was to be an
educational
experience. Can't find any mention of it today. It used to be they
same
for amateur radio as well. We actually built radios, antennas from
plans
and schematics and at a later time from Heathkits, etc. Does anyone
else
remember the educational requirement and if so when it was no longer
mentioned?

I don't believe there was ever solely a education requirement.

The 51% rule came about because some folks were taking production
airplanes, modifying them, and registering them a Experimental
Amateur-Built. *The Nelson N-4 was an example:

http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs...elson.n14n.jpg

Basically, it was a cut-down J-3, converted to a shoulder-wing single
seater.

Probably wasn't that big of a deal when it was just an occasional
owner,
but I suspect some folks started doing this commercially as a way to
bypass the STC process. *Hence the requirement that the majority of
the
construction had to be done for "Education or Recreation."

Ron Wanttaja

Thanks for replying-

--
We have met the enemy and he is us-- Pogo

Anyolmouse-

AND...it is only getting worse every single day!

At the rate things are going, the government will not only spend every
time we earn before we make it but will control both our sleep and our
waking time.
Resistance if futile....you will be assimilated!

"Anyolmouse" wrote in message
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
The PDF document of the committee's final report is he


http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/u...008_report.pdf

Some years ago I read that the reason for the requirement that the
majority of work building an experimental/homebuilt aircraft was to
insure the builder "learned" something. That it was to be an educational
experience. Can't find any mention of it today. It used to be they same
for amateur radio as well. We actually built radios, antennas from plans
and schematics and at a later time from Heathkits, etc. Does anyone else
remember the educational requirement and if so when it was no longer
mentioned?

--
A man is known by the company he keeps- Unknown

Anyolmouse


I recall the same, in both radio and aircraft, but have no idea when or
where the language might have been dropper--or even whether it is not
entirely omitted.

Peter

Peter Dohm wrote:
"Anyolmouse" wrote in message
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
The PDF document of the committee's final report is he


http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/u...008_report.pdf

Some years ago I read that the reason for the requirement that the
majority of work building an experimental/homebuilt aircraft was to
insure the builder "learned" something. That it was to be an educational
experience. Can't find any mention of it today. It used to be they same
for amateur radio as well. We actually built radios, antennas from plans
and schematics and at a later time from Heathkits, etc. Does anyone else
remember the educational requirement and if so when it was no longer
mentioned?

--
A man is known by the company he keeps- Unknown

Anyolmouse


I recall the same, in both radio and aircraft, but have no idea when or
where the language might have been dropper--or even whether it is not
entirely omitted.

Peter




Its from 14 CFR 21.191 and it lists the categories under which one may
apply for an experimental certification:

(g) Operating amateur-built aircraft. Operating an aircraft the major
portion of which has been fabricated and assembled by persons who
undertook the construction project solely for their own education or
recreation.

Charles