double wide trailer

Would you enjoy spending 1/2 your flight time with someone else at the controls??? LOL


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On Oct 18, 5:23 pm, harold wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:11:58 -0700 (PDT), "

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On Oct 18, 1:40 pm, Tony wrote:
i know its been done a few times. I've heard of a husband/wife duo of
Libelles that had a double trailer. Also I've seen a double 1-26 open
trailer. Leah and I only have one pickup but two gliders and tend to
like to go places together. I'd like to solicit opinions (dangerous
thing to do here!) on how you would design a trailer to fit two
gliders, namely two Cherokee II's. It may require some creativity as
they have a fixed center section approx 3 ft wide. I'd like something
enclosed. Stable while empty or with one or both gliders loaded.

Just buy a 2 seater...

A two seater is obviously not what they want. The poster asked a
reasonable question. Why do you fell the need to be an a-hole and
make such a stupid comment?

And who asked for your stupid opinion?

They could get a wooden two seater and enjoy flying together in
something with Cherokee like performance.

It may require some creativity as
they have a fixed center section approx 3 ft wide. *I'd like something
enclosed. *Stable while empty or with one or both gliders loaded.

Just buy a 2 seater...


Screw the 2 seater, go twin!! http://community.livejournal.com/ru_...ft/198624.html
Of course it would still leave you with some creative trailer
solutions to figure out...

-Paul

I think I saw Jim Stoia (sp?) show up at Perry one year with two Libelles in
one trailer.....remember thinking it was a very slick and efficient set-up,
but don't remember the specifics. He lives in South Carolina.

J4

On Oct 19, 7:09*am, "John Bojack" wrote:
I think I saw Jim Stoia (sp?) show up at Perry one year with two Libelles in
one trailer.....remember thinking it was a very slick and efficient set-up,
but don't remember the specifics. * *He lives in South Carolina.

J4

Yea. He got Herr Spindelberger (Cobra) to build a special trailer for
an "old-timer" glider: one that needs LOTS of room for a wide chord
and stuff. Later, he found he could stuff two Libelle's in it.

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA

On Oct 18, 10:40*pm, Tony wrote:
i know its been done a few times. *I've heard of a husband/wife duo of
Libelles that had a double trailer. *Also I've seen a double 1-26 open
trailer. *Leah and I only have one pickup but two gliders and tend to
like to go places together. *I'd like to solicit opinions (dangerous
thing to do here!) on how you would design a trailer to fit two
gliders, namely two Cherokee II's. *It may require some creativity as
they have a fixed center section approx 3 ft wide. *I'd like something
enclosed. *Stable while empty or with one or both gliders loaded.

We have used ordinary utility trailers hauling up 4 SparrowHawks at
one time (just fits in a 24 footer with double racks for wings above
the fuselage) The big question is how long the wings are. That is
usually what determines the length of the trailer. The 24 footer my
friend has weighs about 3500 lbs. empty and my dad has a lighter 22'
trailer that weighs around 3000 lbs. I imagine that with the chord of
the Cherokee wing, you could probably make a rack for one wing on each
wall and the other 2 overhead (We screwed a 2X4 to each wall to
support another 2X4 bridging across. The weight of the wings and
where you can support them obviously might require something a little
different). The trailers are about 8' wide inside, so the two
fuselages should fit. Might have to have them nose to tail so you can
get around them. We just have the fuselage sitting on the dolly and
tie it down with cargo straps. Both trailers (one's a Haulmark and
the other is an Interstate) have elastomeric suspensions and tandem
axles. They ride very nicely, so the gliders don't get beat up.
Price wise, they are hard to beat also. 5 years ago, they were around
$7K - $8K new. That and a little wood for racks and it is a lot
cheaper than a Cobra for one glider. I saved the secret benefit for
last - once the gliders are set up, you have a nice, shady "club
house" to hang out in.

Contact Garret or Boyd Willat.
They used one of those "toy haulers" to fit a Nimbus 3 and a Discus.
A bit on the gigantic side...
Jim

On Oct 19, 8:24*am, JS wrote:
Contact Garret or Boyd Willat.
They used one of those "toy haulers" to fit a Nimbus 3 and a Discus.
A bit on the gigantic side...
Jim

Jim,

I've talked with Garrett and seen pictures of their party wagon. Not
sure I'm ready for that kind of upgrade. I've got an old beater 1994
GMC 2 wheel drive V6 pickup with 256,000 miles on it that I would like
to keep for now for a tow vehicle. Not ready to upgrade a super heavy
duty diesel gas guzzler.

Martin -

I'm having trouble visualizing what you typed. Perhaps its just too
early. The fuselage is ~20-22 ft long. Each wing is about 18 or 19
ft long.

I've got a friend with a Duster and because of its massive fixed
center section the solution for his trailer was to lay the wings flat
on the floor. I'm wondering if maybe a good solution for the double
Cherokee trailer would be two racks for the 4 wings on the floor. one
wing would go root first the other tip first. then the fuselages in,
one nose first the other tail first. This could potentially minimize
trailer width.

What sort of car does your partner have? I would imagine the
glider weighs next to nothing. You don't need large cars and
pick-ups to safely tow trailers, almost any car can be used.
Much cheaper and flexible to fit a tow bar to her car.

At 13:48 19 October 2010, Tony wrote:
On Oct 19, 8:24=A0am, JS wrote:
Contact Garret or Boyd Willat.
They used one of those "toy haulers" to fit a Nimbus 3 and a
Discus.
A bit on the gigantic side...
Jim

Jim,

I've talked with Garrett and seen pictures of their party wagon.
Not
sure I'm ready for that kind of upgrade. I've got an old beater
1994
GMC 2 wheel drive V6 pickup with 256,000 miles on it that I
would like
to keep for now for a tow vehicle. Not ready to upgrade a
super heavy
duty diesel gas guzzler.

Martin -

I'm having trouble visualizing what you typed. Perhaps its just
too
early. The fuselage is ~20-22 ft long. Each wing is about 18
or 19
ft long.

I've got a friend with a Duster and because of its massive fixed
center section the solution for his trailer was to lay the wings
flat
on the floor. I'm wondering if maybe a good solution for the
double
Cherokee trailer would be two racks for the 4 wings on the
floor. one
wing would go root first the other tip first. then the fuselages
in,
one nose first the other tail first. This could potentially
minimize
trailer width.

On Oct 19, 9:39*am, Mark Dickson wrote:
What sort of car does your partner have? *I would imagine the
glider weighs next to nothing. *You don't need large cars and
pick-ups to safely tow trailers, almost any car can be used. *
Much cheaper and flexible to fit a tow bar to her car.

she has 5 speed 4 cylinder subaru outback impreza. it is not a tow
vehicle.

she will share driving on a long trip. this season we've probably put
5000 miles on the truck/trailer together. At least twice we've pulled
the Cherokee from sunrise to sunset (Marfa - Wichita and Portales, NM
- Wichita). Neither one of us is interested in long solo drives. We
do enjoy each others company on long road trips though. She'd rather
ride with me and not have her glider than drive solo across the
country. I don't blame her. I'm not interested in driving solo either
to places like Marfa, Caesar Creek, or Elmira from here in Wichita.
With a double trailer then we both can go flying when we get there.

On Oct 19, 7:51*am, Tony wrote:
On Oct 19, 9:39*am, Mark Dickson wrote:

What sort of car does your partner have? *I would imagine the
glider weighs next to nothing. *You don't need large cars and
pick-ups to safely tow trailers, almost any car can be used. *
Much cheaper and flexible to fit a tow bar to her car.

she has 5 speed 4 cylinder subaru outback impreza. it is not a tow
vehicle.

she will share driving on a long trip. *this season we've probably put
5000 miles on the truck/trailer together. *At least twice we've pulled
the Cherokee from sunrise to sunset (Marfa - Wichita and Portales, NM
- Wichita). *Neither one of us is interested in long solo drives. We
do enjoy each others company on long road trips though. She'd rather
ride with me and not have her glider than drive solo across the
country. I don't blame her. I'm not interested in driving solo either
to places like Marfa, Caesar Creek, or Elmira from here in Wichita.
With a double trailer then we both can go flying when we get there.

Make some simple scale models out of foam or balsa and start playing
around with them. It's much easier to figure out when you have
something solid in your hands that can be arranged at will. You'll
have it knocked out a couple days before the person with the computer
and fancy software.

Craig