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Old February 7th 11, 10:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jcarlyle
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Default Transponder antenna installations

I hate to break it to you, but a Becker 4401-175 installed using RG-58
as an antenna line violates Becker’s instructions. They state in
paragraph 5C that only RG-223 is to be used with the 4401-175. RG-58
can only be used with a 4401-250. Don’t overlook that you also must
comply with paragraph 6E, where you must check the power at the
antenna end of the cable. I’d bet that a 4401-175 using RG-58 will not
meet Becker’s power spec of 18.5 dBW.

As far as the non-mention of LM240 in the Becker manual, I’d bet
you’re allowed as an A&P to attach data showing that LM240 exceeds the
performance of RG-223. This data, combined with the mandatory power
test proving that the 4401-175 installed using LM240 exceeds the
Becker requirement of 18.5 dBW at the antenna end of the cable, would
make you golden.

Unfortunately, you have to buy male BNC and male TNC crimp connectors
when you buy the LM240. They’re a buck more expensive than RG-58
connectors. But your crimper will definitely work.

Your log book entry would simply say that the Becker 4401-175 was
installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions, except
for the use of an antenna cable that exceeds the manufacturer’s cable
specifications which results in greater power being delivered to the
antenna. I guess you could attribute the idea of using a better cable
to RAS, if you liked – humor shouldn’t a violation of the A&P code, is
it?

-John

On Feb 7, 9:18 am, JJ Sinclair wrote:
The Becker 4401-175 manual does say that RG-223/U is preferred over
RGU-58, but it doesn't mention LM-240? As a mechanic I am bound to
follow the appropriate tech data. Does LM-240 use the same BNC
fittings I have in stock? Can I use my crimper? What would my log book
entry say? Installed Becker 4401-175 transponder in accordance with
opinions found on ras?
:) JJ


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Old February 6th 11, 06:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Scott[_3_]
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Default Transponder antenna installations

I installed an L-2 antenna with my transponder. While my wings and tailboom
are carbon fiber, the nose of my glider is fiberglass. I installed the L-2
vertically on the bulkhead that closes off the nose ahead of my feet. I've
not noticed any effect on my other instruments in the panel or on my GPS
(CA302). I have noticed that my feet still get cold at altitude, so I don't
think the power output is a problem. The vertical orientation means my
glider is at the center of a very fat horizontal donut.

John Scott


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Old February 6th 11, 08:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Transponder antenna installations

On Feb 6, 1:14*pm, "John Scott" wrote:
I installed an L-2 antenna with my transponder. *While my wings and tailboom
are carbon fiber, the nose of my glider is fiberglass. *I installed the L-2
vertically on the bulkhead that closes off the nose ahead of my feet. *I've
not noticed any effect on my other instruments in the panel or on my GPS
(CA302). *I have noticed that my feet still get cold at altitude, so I don't
think the power output is a problem. *The vertical orientation means my
glider is at the center of a very fat horizontal donut.

John Scott


We did an LS-3 this way with good results.


Cookie

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Old February 6th 11, 04:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
soaringpilot[_3_]
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Default Transponder antenna installations

First of all: what kind of a glider are you installing the antenna in?
If it is carbon with enough conductivity in the fuselage then you have
to go outside, but if not, you can install the antena inside.

Installing antenna on top of the panel cover was probably a bad place,
but primarily because with proper ground plane primary emission would
be up, rather than down towards radar station.

Cheers,
Henryk

On Feb 5, 7:26*pm, Dick wrote:
I am installing a new vane style antenna for my transponder. *My
original antenna was located where the cg hook used to be on my
discus. *This location often tangled with the trailer ramp when
loading the glider. *Next I tried a whip style on top of my instrument
panel cover. *All of the self proclaimed experts said that was a
terrible place. *Much to much power too close to the rest of my
avionics and electronics. *I now intend to place it on the underside
of the fuselage as far aft of the main gear housing as I can reach.
My question is, does it have to be mounted near the centerline, *I'd
rather not tangle with the overlap of the two fuselage halves. *How
far off the center line can I go before the biannual inspector will
object or I will lose effectiveness? *IT


 




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