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Spot on QT.
The "ostrich approach" isn't going to solve the issue. UH clearly believes that what exists is "good enough" and that the ingrates should be satisfied. The Winscore-based scoring environment does do something more or less like what was intended in the horse and buggy days when there was no internet and the alternatives were few. UH asserts that there are only a few folks who are interested in looking at files, and getting them the next day is just fine. Having extensive experience with three scoring systems (Winscore, SeeYou and SGP) along with OLC what the US system provides is doesn't even come close to providing what the current standard of practice is. At the contests I have officiated at (CD or Scorer), I have endeavored to use alternate and extraordinary means to provide posted scores within minutes of log submission, and to also provide simultaneous availability of logs via Google Drive (albeit not grouped by class ![]() My own opinion is that the immediacy of scores, logs and of uesable real-time tracking makes competing (even though it's not racing) much more interesting to both competitors and others. QT |
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On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 6:49:55 PM UTC-4, John Godfrey (QT) wrote:
On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-4, Steve Koerner wrote: The score sheet presently has a column identifying only the name of the IGC file for each pilot. That's a good thing, but it's a real pain to then go find and retrieve the file elsewhere. It would be really cool if we could just click the IGC file name to immediately download it for viewing. Since I'm free to wish as I please, I will also wish for another column on the scoresheet with an IGC file that has been pruned to the on-course time such that the pre-start and post-finish data is removed from the log. That would really be nice for checking a pilot's racing statistics and make flight comparisons easy. So two IGC files for each flight please: one comprises the as-submitted flight log and the other is a generated file slightly massaged for improved viewing and analysis. I'm sure somebody here knows how to do this stuff. Thanks in advance if you can do this. It would help everybody improve their flying. UH clearly believes that what exists is "good enough" and that the ingrates should be satisfied. The Winscore-based scoring environment does do something more or less like what was intended in the horse and buggy days when there was no internet and the alternatives were few. UH asserts that there are only a few folks who are interested in looking at files, and getting them the next day is just fine. Having extensive experience with three scoring systems (Winscore, SeeYou and SGP) along with OLC what the US system provides is doesn't even come close to providing what the current standard of practice is. At the contests I have officiated at (CD or Scorer), I have endeavored to use alternate and extraordinary means to provide posted scores within minutes of log submission, and to also provide simultaneous availability of logs via Google Drive (albeit not grouped by class ![]() My own opinion is that the immediacy of scores, logs and of uesable real-time tracking makes competing (even though it's not racing) much more interesting to both competitors and others. QT UH did not make any assertion that the current system is "good enough". That remains to be seen. If a meaningful number of people want a much more automated system, the work to create it would be justified. Please read what I wrote. Having made that determination it then becomes "only" an issue of getting a qualified volunteer to do the work required. This might be an interesting general topic for our Fall rules poll. UH |
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On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 11:00:27 AM UTC-4, Steve Koerner wrote:
The score sheet presently has a column identifying only the name of the IGC file for each pilot. That's a good thing, but it's a real pain to then go find and retrieve the file elsewhere. It would be really cool if we could just click the IGC file name to immediately download it for viewing. Since I'm free to wish as I please, I will also wish for another column on the scoresheet with an IGC file that has been pruned to the on-course time such that the pre-start and post-finish data is removed from the log. That would really be nice for checking a pilot's racing statistics and make flight comparisons easy. So two IGC files for each flight please: one comprises the as-submitted flight log and the other is a generated file slightly massaged for improved viewing and analysis. I'm sure somebody here knows how to do this stuff. Thanks in advance if you can do this. It would help everybody improve their flying. "Work to create it"? Wheel already invented. Sufficiently round. |
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