Kinda sad...

The CRP (Conservation Reserve Program) that all of the tree huggers rave
about caused the majority of the Farmer's Co-ops to go under.

What's the "CRP" do?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
The CRP (Conservation Reserve Program) that all of the tree huggers rave
about caused the majority of the Farmer's Co-ops to go under.


What's the "CRP" do?

Pays farmers to set land aside for wildlife.

The CRP (Conservation Reserve Program) that all of the tree huggers rave
about caused the majority of the Farmer's Co-ops to go under.

What's the "CRP" do?

Pays farmers to set land aside for wildlife.

I mean in relation to the Farmer's Co-ops. How did they kill the co-ops?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

The list goes on and on. How is it that we once valued "service", but
no longer do today?

I think it's the other way around. We are more inclined nowadays to do
it ourselves. This is especially true when we can save a little money -
why pay somebody to hand the phone to you when you are sitting right
next to it. But there is no "logical stopping point", and so it can
continue as long as people are willing.

Also, probably starting around the fifties, consumerism really took
hold, probably fueled by television, and in order to buy all the goodies
we were supposed to want we had to make better use of our money. So we
skimped on service to spend on goods.

We also had a sense of greater destiny - how many kids these days =want=
to get up at four am and clean out the stable and milk cows all day? In
the old days there wasn't much choice, but now there's a big city they
can actually go to and do something worthwhile with their lives. (I
know.. like flip burgers

As things got bigger (and more efficient), they got more anonymous,
which made them easier to get bigger...

That's the trend I see, and the FSS system is just a part of it. And it
might be nice to wander over to the FSS building and talk to the briefer
over a real chart (made of fuzzy blue lines that were hard to read), but
it is also nice to see the actual color radar traces on my computer, a
3D color plot of wind intensity and icing potential, and pull up an
animated sequence across my flight path.

What I really miss though is being able to talk to an actual meteorologist.

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

On 24 Feb 2006 14:14:25 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote:

1. When I was a boy in Racine, WI, the garbage men used to walk around
to the BACK of the house to pick up our garbage cans, carried them out
to the street, dumped them in the truck, and then carried them --
CAREFULLY -- back. Imagine!

cost of employees.

2. When I was born in 1958, my mother was in the hospital for six days,
the nurses gave her foot massages, she was allowed to smoke in her room
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
well ...

3. When I was a kid, every service station had a fleet of guys on the
payroll to pump the gas, check the oil, inspect the tail lights, etc.
Gas cost 39 cents a gallon. And we thought THAT was high.

cost of employees.

The list goes on and on. How is it that we once valued "service", but
no longer do today?

cost of employees. if you have to downsize at your hotel: where can you
save HUGE amounts of money? cancelling the morning paper?

#m
--
We reject Gilmore’s right to travel argument because the Constitution does
not guarantee the right to travel by any particular form of transportation.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P27712B8C

cost of employees. if you have to downsize at your hotel: where can you
save HUGE amounts of money? cancelling the morning paper?

Our biggest expenses are, in order:

1. Taxes
2. Utilities
3. Employees

Eliminate our woefully inefficient, never-satisfied, ever-expanding,
incredibly stupid government, and just imagine what we could actually pay
out to "We the People"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Gene Seibel wrote:
I began flying in the days when FSS were scattered all across the
country. I will always fondly remember approaching Harrison, Arkansas
from the north as a thunderstorm approached from the west. The FSS guy
gave me a blow by blow description of its progress as I eventually lost
the race and diverted to another airport. That was flight service at
its finest. But I also understand we can't afford to continue providing
that service to 6 airplanes a day. ;(
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of Flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.


I too remember - FSSs were always nearby - near Hoxie (where I grew up)
at GLD and maybe at HLC (where the HLC is closer to Hoxie than to Hill
City). Thank goodness, since that was before toll-free telephone
service (long distance phone calls were expensive) and we didn't have
the Internet, etc.

My most memorable visit was at Tuscaloosa - Mother's Day, 1966. On the
spur of the moment, a friend and I flew down from Wright Field in a T-34
to drop in on his mother. We enjoyed a great flight down and had a
wonderful day - southern hospitality and all.

We visited the FSS on the field in preparation to return. We got the
usual full briefing - over the counter, in person. We settled on going
northeast, then north. Just as the door to the FSS was closing behind
us, the briefer called after us - reported he had been advised that
thunderstorms had increased in intensity on our route and advised that
we should consider going north then northeast. Whew. We changed the
route of flight, climbed through scattered to 10500, watched the
activity east of us, and landed at DWF before dark.

Those 'old days' were 'good'.

Gene: I've been enjoying your publications on your web site - thanks
for sharing your experiences and love of aviation.

george

We visited the FSS on the field in preparation to return. We got the usual
full briefing - over the counter, in person. We settled on going
northeast, then north. Just as the door to the FSS was closing behind us,
the briefer called after us - reported he had been advised that
thunderstorms had increased in intensity on our route and advised that we
should consider going north then northeast. Whew. We changed the route
of flight, climbed through scattered to 10500, watched the activity east
of us, and landed at DWF before dark.

Those 'old days' were 'good'.

Thanks for sharing your recollections. It's amazing how much EVERYTHING has
changed in just 40 years.

Personally, I like having the live satellite and radar on my computer before
launching, as opposed to a system of weather observers scattered around the
country. True, it's not as personal, but I can gather more pertinent data
from a glance at the live radar than I can from a five minute briefing. In
this case, a picture truly IS worth a thousand words, IMHO.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:01:23 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

cost of employees. if you have to downsize at your hotel: where can you
save HUGE amounts of money? cancelling the morning paper?

Our biggest expenses are, in order:

1. Taxes

well, you have to pay the infrastructure you use somehow. You might afford
to pay directly for what you use, but there are also other expenses.
Democaracy is bad, but it is the best of all forms. Sure, there are ways to
spend money wiser than it is done now, but some say "reduce military
expenses", others say "more welfare" ... and here we go ...

2. Utilities

you can save there. you just have to invest first. but it will pay for
itself.

3. Employees

here we go. :-)

Eliminate our woefully inefficient, never-satisfied, ever-expanding,
incredibly stupid government, and just imagine what we could actually pay
out to "We the People"...

o what would you change? toll roads? user fees for aviation? less military
expenses, less social security?

whatever you will do: it will be wrong.

#m
--
We reject Gilmore’s right to travel argument because the Constitution does
not guarantee the right to travel by any particular form of transportation.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P27712B8C

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Those 'old days' were 'good'.

Thanks for sharing your recollections. It's amazing how much
EVERYTHING has changed in just 40 years.

You haven't seen anything yet. Because of the advances in computing,
communications, and genetic engineering, society in 40 more years will be
completely different than today. Assuming the stupid people don't destroy
everything first.