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| Please indulge me here..
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| VA is where military vets get their benefits from, also a
southern
| state
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| VC were the guys in the black pajamas carrying
Kalashnikovs
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| VD is what you end up with after buying that skanky chick
too many
| drinks
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| VH was a huge rock group from the 80's
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| VMU is the speed you rotate at to avoid the cow on the
runway
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| V2 was a German rocket from WW2
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|
| I feel better now... Long day at work ya know...
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VNO is Maximum Structural Cruising Speed per definition in CFR FAR Part
.... snip...

Of course VNE never-exceed speed is the tiny red arc and we
shouldn't go there!


That would be a red *line*, not a tiny red arc at all.

So tell me what is the definition of VNO?


The first line of your post is the definition; top of green arc is where it
is.

Your right its not a red arc its a line that defines where not to go.

Cjamairway

Kershner says Vno is the maximum structural cruising speed,
the maximum indicated airspeed where no structural damage would occur
in moderate vertical gust conditions. By implication, then, cruising
above this would be safe enough in smooth air. There are airplanes that
can easily cruise in the yellow arc.
Now we just need a definition of "moderate gust
conditions."

Dan

wrote:
Your right its not a red arc its a line that defines where not to go.


You're both wrong. It's a small red light (I have a digital tach).
See where being anal retentive gets you?

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Just like the Bottom of the green is VS1.

Big (yet common) misconception there.... VS1 is simply the stall speed in a
"Specified" condition. In MOST aircraft this is stall in a clean
configuration, but the definition of VS1 does not require it to be a stall
speed in the "Clean" configuration. It is entirely possible that the POH
may define VS1 as a stall with perhaps 10 deg flaps.... perhaps NEGATIVE
flaps (some aircraft can do that ya know for more efficient cruising),
perhaps VS1 can be clean with gear extended.... or it can be clean with gear
retracted.... whatever the manufactor specifies.


Still have no idea why structural crusing speed is shortened to Vno "no"
doesn't seem like an it fits.. unlike NE and FE and so forth. Kind of like
Va... how does "a" represent manuevering.... but it does. One of those
aviation things... if it all made sense it wouldn't be worth doing!
Perhaps they say "Normal Operating" because it reminds them where they
"Normally Operate" I've never flown a plane that cruises in the yellow
arc.... the ONLY time I've seen the yellow arc has been in descents... Fly
mainly Piper Archer/Arrow/Seminole... have about sixty hours in a C-172.
Not exactly speed deamons.

If Vc was used a Viet Nam vet would kill it, wait Vc is
used.

Vno is Italian wine

Vd is either diving speed or a disease.


"nooneimportant" wrote in message
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| Just like the Bottom of the green is VS1.
|
| Big (yet common) misconception there.... VS1 is simply the
stall speed in a
| "Specified" condition. In MOST aircraft this is stall in
a clean
| configuration, but the definition of VS1 does not require
it to be a stall
| speed in the "Clean" configuration. It is entirely
possible that the POH
| may define VS1 as a stall with perhaps 10 deg flaps....
perhaps NEGATIVE
| flaps (some aircraft can do that ya know for more
efficient cruising),
| perhaps VS1 can be clean with gear extended.... or it can
be clean with gear
| retracted.... whatever the manufactor specifies.
|
|
| Still have no idea why structural crusing speed is
shortened to Vno "no"
| doesn't seem like an it fits.. unlike NE and FE and so
forth. Kind of like
| Va... how does "a" represent manuevering.... but it does.
One of those
| aviation things... if it all made sense it wouldn't be
worth doing!
| Perhaps they say "Normal Operating" because it reminds
them where they
| "Normally Operate" I've never flown a plane that cruises
in the yellow
| arc.... the ONLY time I've seen the yellow arc has been in
descents... Fly
| mainly Piper Archer/Arrow/Seminole... have about sixty
hours in a C-172.
| Not exactly speed deamons.
|
|
|
|
|

VS1 is the stall speed in the landing configuration based on 1.wings
level 2. 1G 3. max gross weight 4. power to idle with no flaps. It's
the bottom of the green.

If we were to look at Vso it represents the stall speed in the landing
configuration based on 1. wings level 2.1G 3. max gross weight 4. power
to idle with full flaps. It's the bottom of the white.

otherwise yes your correct.

Cjamairway

It's much like "METAR", which stands for "Aviation Routine Weather
Report." How the hell, you might ask? In this case, i happen to know
that METAR was derived from some french words. As for Vno, I don't
know.

"Tim Nunes" wrote in message
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It's much like "METAR", which stands for "Aviation Routine Weather
Report." How the hell, you might ask? In this case, i happen to know
that METAR was derived from some french words.

MET-A-R

MET-eorological
A-rea
R-eport.

Jeff Shirton (PP-ASEL out of CZBA)