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Old February 25th 07, 04:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul Repacholi
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"bumper" writes:

One step at a time, buddy. First we get the LOX tanks on-board, then
we add the kerosene . . .


You have that already. It is mixed with the glass and carbon fibre.
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Old February 24th 07, 07:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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People might be interested in the British Summit Oxygen systems,
originally designed for HA climbing - http://www.summitoxygen.com/index.php
.. It uses a cannula instead of a face mask and an electronic pulse-
dose meter system, which can supply up to 22 hours of oxygen from one
bottle.

Few climbers use Summit sets as they proved very unreliable on
Everest. The British Army and Navy rave about them, but that's
probably because the company was set up by two ex-Royal Engineers. Get
Mapping uses them in their aircraft, apparently.

Climbers instead use the simple but effective Russian Poisk system
that afaik has never had a failure, but requires many more bottles to
be carried. While the fancy design of the Summit system is unsuitable
for climbing, it's probably alright in the gentle environment of a
glider.


Dan

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Old February 24th 07, 08:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Marc Ramsey
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Dan G wrote:
People might be interested in the British Summit Oxygen systems,
originally designed for HA climbing - http://www.summitoxygen.com/index.php
. It uses a cannula instead of a face mask and an electronic pulse-
dose meter system, which can supply up to 22 hours of oxygen from one
bottle.


This is not a LOX system, the concept is appears to be much the same as
that used in EDS systems...

Marc
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Old February 25th 07, 01:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Feb 24, 4:33 am, "Bruno Maes" u32016@uwe wrote:
Has someone ever implemented a liquid oxygen system inside a glider?


The USAF Soar Eagle project in the early 80s IIRC used a LOX system in
their G103. Jim Payne could tell you all about it I suspect. I have
a copy of his Project Soar Eagle thesis document which details the
systems on this wave ship.

I don't think the Flight Level 500 project of the same time period had
a LOX system.

Matt Michael

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Old February 25th 07, 04:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Feb 24, 5:44 pm, wrote:

The USAF Soar Eagle project in the early 80s IIRC used a LOX system in
their G103. Jim Payne could tell you all about it I suspect. I have
a copy of his Project Soar Eagle thesis document which details the
systems on this wave ship.

I don't think the Flight Level 500 project of the same time period had
a LOX system.

Matt Michael


For entertainment value...
Since Soaring Magazine refused to print the photo when it was
submitted, we need Mark Grubb to dig up and post the fantastic photo
of him (as towpilot for the day) standing in front of that G103, dead
ground squirrel in his hand (he had just run over it with a Pawnee)
while two USAF TPS pilots in pressure suits sit in the glider. A
bizarre sight. Looks like a futuristic Blackadder episode.
"Today, our in-flight meal is squirrel. Would you like it sauteed, or
fricaseed?"
It was always fun to watch the moon men come out of the Urban
Assault Vehicle, carrying porta-packs which they're hooked to until
they climb into the glider.
There's also a humorous to some, not to the pilot story from that
same project of what happens if you put those "scrunch them up and
they get warm" packets inside the boots of your space suit, which
amazingly has an atmosphere high in Oxygen. If the squirrel was in
that space suit, it would have been nicely sauteed.

Believe the DG500 "Perlan" prototype has a more modern LOX
installation. Einar would know more on that one.

Jim

 




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