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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)



 
 
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Old July 11th 07, 10:48 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

I don't think reasonable people would consider you to have much
experience.


Reasonable people do not base such assessments on emotion.
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Old July 11th 07, 10:49 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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El Maximo writes:

You despise leaving your apartment, why would anyone think you know anything
about 'interactions worldwide"?


Stephen Hawking is confined to a wheelchair; why would anyone think he knows
anything about the rest of the universe?
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Old July 11th 07, 10:50 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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TMOliver writes:

Other than in South Louisiana (and then with mixed and amusing result), I
certainly wouldn't try that progression in the US (and if you think so, it's
even more obvious how "out of touch" you are.


This statement seems supremely ironic, given that I was talking about the
_entire world_ ... not just the U.S. The United States is only a very tiny
part of the world, and it is not at all representative.
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Old July 11th 07, 10:51 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

Mxsmanic wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

I don't think reasonable people would consider you to have much
experience.


Reasonable people do not base such assessments on emotion.


Absolutely right.

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  #225  
Old July 11th 07, 10:52 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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William Black writes:

And about two thirds of them are in India...


No, they are spread around the world. Most Indians are not usefully fluent in
English.
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Old July 11th 07, 10:52 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

Mxsmanic wrote:

El Maximo writes:

You despise leaving your apartment, why would anyone think you know anything
about 'interactions worldwide"?


Stephen Hawking is confined to a wheelchair; why would anyone think he knows
anything about the rest of the universe?


Maybe because he doesn't think that playing flight simulator is the same
thing as flying?

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
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Old July 11th 07, 10:53 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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William Black writes:

It's the major official language, and a lot more popular than Hindi in
school for older kids.


Hindi is the major language, with English being more of a lingua franca (since
there are many different languages in India). Educated people do learn
English, but they don't necessarily speak it on an everyday basis.
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Old July 11th 07, 10:54 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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William Black writes:

Just about everyone I met under about thirty in Bombay spoke some English,
including kids working in cheap restaurants, who are, as you're probably
aware, just in from the villages and making their way for the first time.


"Some English" doesn't really count. Give these acquaintances of yours a
TOEIC and you may be surprised.
  #229  
Old July 11th 07, 10:57 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)

William Black writes:

If you speak to them in the same way. Each word distinct and a pause
between each one, you'll find your problem just about disappears.


It's not his problem, it's their problem. They are the ones who are not
fluent.
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Old July 11th 07, 10:57 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Richard writes:

Here in Montreal I'm blessed in that tech support is offered in both English
and French - and it seems that they've yet to figure out that French side
could also be outsourced.


The French themselves have figured this out, and your support call from France
may be routed to Africa. In some cases, it is even routed to Montreal.
 




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