double wide trailer

On Oct 18, 5:23*pm, harold wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:11:58 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
On Oct 18, 1:40*pm, Tony wrote:
i know its been done a few times. *I've heard of a husband/wife duo of
Libelles that had a double trailer. *Also I've seen a double 1-26 open
trailer. *Leah and I only have one pickup but two gliders and tend to
like to go places together. *I'd like to solicit opinions (dangerous
thing to do here!) on how you would design a trailer to fit two
gliders, namely two Cherokee II's. *It may require some creativity as
they have a fixed center section approx 3 ft wide. *I'd like something
enclosed. *Stable while empty or with one or both gliders loaded.

Just buy a 2 seater...

A two seater is obviously not what they want. *The poster asked a
reasonable question. *Why do *you fell the need to be an a-hole and
make such a stupid comment?

And who asked for your stupid opinion?

They could get a wooden two seater and enjoy flying together in
something with Cherokee like performance.

Would you enjoy spending 1/2 your flight time with someone else at the controls??? LOL


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On Oct 18, 5:23 pm, harold wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:11:58 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
On Oct 18, 1:40 pm, Tony wrote:
i know its been done a few times. I've heard of a husband/wife duo of
Libelles that had a double trailer. Also I've seen a double 1-26 open
trailer. Leah and I only have one pickup but two gliders and tend to
like to go places together. I'd like to solicit opinions (dangerous
thing to do here!) on how you would design a trailer to fit two
gliders, namely two Cherokee II's. It may require some creativity as
they have a fixed center section approx 3 ft wide. I'd like something
enclosed. Stable while empty or with one or both gliders loaded.

Just buy a 2 seater...

A two seater is obviously not what they want. The poster asked a
reasonable question. Why do you fell the need to be an a-hole and
make such a stupid comment?

And who asked for your stupid opinion?

They could get a wooden two seater and enjoy flying together in
something with Cherokee like performance.

On Oct 20, 3:51*am, Tony wrote:
she has 5 speed 4 cylinder subaru outback impreza. it is not a tow
vehicle.

Why isn't it?

Four cylinder Subarus are extremely popular tow vehicles around here,
the Legacy perhaps a bit more so than the Impreza but there is little
difference between them.

Here is mine (1995 2.5 non turbo) with our club's DG1000 behind it. It
tows it very easily, including over mountains.

http://www.twitpic.com/11uvwc

Why isn't it?

Four cylinder Subarus are extremely popular tow vehicles around here,
the Legacy perhaps a bit more so than the Impreza but there is little
difference between them.

Here is mine (1995 2.5 non turbo) with our club's DG1000 behind it. It
tows it very easily, including over mountains.

http://www.twitpic.com/11uvwc

Her Outback Impreza is not a 2.5L, It is either a 1.8 or 2.2L and I
think its the 1.8L. Sure I suppose it could tow her trailer, I mean,
we've all seen the picture of the smart car with the Cobra trailer
behind it. But it wouldn't tow my trailer as mine is way too heavy
for the car. Plus the point is that driving separately is not an
option. We're both going to be going wherever we are going in the
same vehicle. So why not try to bring both gliders?

On Oct 19, 9:48*am, Tony wrote:
On Oct 19, 8:24*am, JS wrote:

Contact Garret or Boyd Willat.
They used one of those "toy haulers" to fit a Nimbus 3 and a Discus.
A bit on the gigantic side...
Jim

Jim,

I've talked with Garrett and seen pictures of their party wagon. *Not
sure I'm ready for that kind of upgrade. *I've got an old beater 1994
GMC 2 wheel drive V6 pickup with 256,000 miles on it that I would like
to keep for now for a tow vehicle. *Not ready to upgrade a super heavy
duty diesel gas guzzler.

Martin -

I'm having trouble visualizing what you typed. *Perhaps its just too
early. *The fuselage is ~20-22 ft long. *Each wing is about 18 or 19
ft long.

I've got a friend with a Duster and because of its massive fixed
center section the solution for his trailer was to lay the wings flat
on the floor. *I'm wondering if maybe a good solution for the double
Cherokee trailer would be two racks for the 4 wings on the floor. *one
wing would go root first the other tip first. *then the fuselages in,
one nose first the other tail first. *This could potentially minimize
trailer width.

A couple thoughts for what they might be worth(internet toilet paper).
Picture a wing dolly kinda like most trailers use but set up to accept
roots of 2 wings. This way the wings could be put very close together,
you don't need double tracks, etc. Yep- it might take 2 people working
together to go in and out, but so what. The wings for one glider go on
the right. Second on the left.
Assembly: Pull first fuselage which is tail forward in trailer out and
position. Wings for that glider are on same side. Remove wings and
rig. There may be a trick here if it matters which wing goes on
first.
Repeat for second glider.
The glider that gets flown the most is the one that goes in second.
Warning- old war story. My early mentor was Steve Bennis who was
married to Ginny(now Ginny Schweizer). They used to go on safari to
Texas with their panel truck and a flatbed trailer with two LK's on
it. He said it was a lot of fun except they bioth had different ideas
of where to fly some some retrieves were complicated.
Sounds like you guys are having a lot of fun. Keep it up
UH

On Oct 19, 9:08*pm, wrote:
On Oct 19, 9:48*am, Tony wrote:



On Oct 19, 8:24*am, JS wrote:

Contact Garret or Boyd Willat.
They used one of those "toy haulers" to fit a Nimbus 3 and a Discus.
A bit on the gigantic side...
Jim

Jim,

I've talked with Garrett and seen pictures of their party wagon. *Not
sure I'm ready for that kind of upgrade. *I've got an old beater 1994
GMC 2 wheel drive V6 pickup with 256,000 miles on it that I would like
to keep for now for a tow vehicle. *Not ready to upgrade a super heavy
duty diesel gas guzzler.

Martin -

I'm having trouble visualizing what you typed. *Perhaps its just too
early. *The fuselage is ~20-22 ft long. *Each wing is about 18 or 19
ft long.

I've got a friend with a Duster and because of its massive fixed
center section the solution for his trailer was to lay the wings flat
on the floor. *I'm wondering if maybe a good solution for the double
Cherokee trailer would be two racks for the 4 wings on the floor. *one
wing would go root first the other tip first. *then the fuselages in,
one nose first the other tail first. *This could potentially minimize
trailer width.

A couple thoughts for what they might be worth(internet toilet paper).
Picture a wing dolly kinda like most trailers use but set up to accept
roots of 2 wings. This way the wings could be put very close together,
you don't need double tracks, etc. Yep- it might take 2 people working
together to go in and out, but so what. The wings for one glider go on
the right. Second on the left.
Assembly: Pull first fuselage which is tail forward in trailer out and
position. Wings for that glider are on same side. Remove wings and
rig. There may be a trick here if it matters which wing goes on
first.
Repeat for second glider.
The glider that gets flown the most is the one that goes in second.
Warning- old war story. My early mentor was Steve Bennis who was
married to Ginny(now Ginny Schweizer). They used to go on safari to
Texas with their panel truck and a flatbed trailer with two LK's on
it. He said it was a lot of fun except they bioth had different ideas
of where to fly some some retrieves were complicated.
Sounds like you guys are having a lot of fun. Keep it up
UH

Hank, thanks for the ideas, I like it!

btw I went to one of your first time contest pilot talks a few
conventions ago. really enjoyed it. perhaps this coming season i'll
actually get a chance to go to one!

If It were me, and I wanted to do it on the cheap (as I always try to
do) I would pull them inside a hangar and see how tightly I could nest
them together then find an old travel trailer that could be stripped
clean inside, cut the rear end out of it and hinge it for a door. The
big bonus there is that with a lantern, a cooler, a portable RV potty,
and a couple of cots, it turns into a cozy replacement for the Hilton
while the birds are tied out somewhere.

A search through Craigslist and a few weekends work could have you
roadworthy for just a few hundred dollars.

Have fun!
TJ

PIK20 N202PK
VariEze N25TB
Glasair II FT currently building

www.simplytj.com

Here is a strange idea.

Picture a basic flatbed trailer. Add the left and right walls, hinged at
the bottom and outside of the floor to fold from the normal up and down
position to horizontal and beside the floor. Drive a fuselage onto each
side, secure them in jigs, winch the sides back to up and down like normal.
Wings secured in jigs between them. Front and back and top stationary with
smaller access doors.
--
Jim in NC