irrefutable bottom line about picture ID's

"Icebound" wrote in message
t.cable.rogers.com...
The
current voter-apathy is some western societies might be a serious symptom
that a significant segment of the population no longer gives a real damn
about their country.

No, it means they don't give a damn about the political parties. There
may be a rather insignificant difference to the individual concerned from
voting for one part to another. In that case, let those who really feel
strongly one way or the other decide.

In the US the confusion of the current ruling party and the country is
often made on here, and is played upon by supporters of Mr Bush.
It's gone back a long way. Anti-war protesters are often accused of
hating their country.

Paul

"Roger Long" wrote in message


The real political divide is no longer between liberal and
conservative. It's between thinking and not thinking.

Interesting. It's usually left-leaning folks I've seen make this statement
as if they're the only ones capable of rational thought. It's like hearing
them say "you need to keep an open mind" while completely oblivious to the
fact that they've disregarded any validity in the opposing argument.

Very interesting, indeed.

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
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Dave S wrote:

I think its a bit more than an illusion. Children in some Middle and
High Schools are being required to display school issued ID's.. It helps
to sort out who belongs and who doesnt.
And that's a good thing? Well, don't worry, we'll probably soon have the
same thing here in the U.S.... (some schools already have it I'm sure)
to "enhance" security.

Every little bit helps.

I know, I know.... "if it saves one life..." etc. etc.

I have
an ID for work,
I don't
an ID for the airport (city owned, joint use airport), a
Not at my airport
photo on my DL,
this is fairly universal as DL serve as Identification nationwide.
a photo on my concealed handgun license..
I have a CCW too but in my state there is only a thumb print required....
always been that way and we've never had any problems with terrorists
using CCW licenses. But.. SURE... why not change that too. I bet the
cost to renew my CCW will then cost as much as it does in your state.

but my pilot
certificate, run by the US Govt doesn't have a photo on it? Heck, even
the dependent's military ID just to be able to shop at AAFES (the
military version of SuperWalmart) has a picture.
Okay, then lets do a picture for pilots too .... and ooops you forgot,
you'll need one for your ATM card, your credit card(s) and how about
the AOPA memberships cards too? WHat about your medical insurance cards,
and don't forget library cards. If its good for all that stuff its gonna
be good for everything. WHo cares what it costs or if it really does
any good.

"kontiki" wrote in message
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If have heard not one single tangible bit of evidence from anyone
that requiring a picture ID for pilot license will do anything
to justify the cost and inconvenience when it comes to enhancing
national security.

There hasn't been a single case of terroristic use of a GA airplane
that I am aware of. The whole case in question revolves around 9-11
with commercial airliners and did not even involve the pilots. It
was a failure of a governmental agency to determine whereabouts and
activities of foreign nationals (i.e. non-US citizens).


Okay, you recognize that picture IDs will do nothing to enhance security,
but you are unable to see the impossibility of tracking foreign nationals or
any other class of people in this country.

I know! We should pass a law requiring all foreign nationals to wear tinfoil
hats with red streamers at least three feet long. That will fix the problem.

C J Campbell wrote:

I know! We should pass a law requiring all foreign nationals to wear
tinfoil hats with red streamers at least three feet long. That will fix
the problem.

Considering the people making these rules, I'd not be surprised to see your
suggestion (tongue in cheek, I know) taking effect tomorrow.

- Andrew

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:00:58 -0400, Andrew Gideon wrote:

I know! We should pass a law requiring all foreign nationals to wear
tinfoil hats with red streamers at least three feet long. That will fix
the problem.

Considering the people making these rules, I'd not be surprised to see your
suggestion (tongue in cheek, I know) taking effect tomorrow.

How about a badge for je^Wforeigners?

- Andrew

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Somehow, some way, the Left trash talks "multi-national corporations" and
"big corporations" as if they were messengers of evil, when, in fact,
corporations represent the ultimate, perfect expression of communal
ownership of capital. (Jay Honeck in r.a.p.)

("Martin Hotze" wrote)

#m

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Somehow, some way, the Left trash talks "multi-national corporations" and
"big corporations" as if they were messengers of evil, when, in fact,
corporations represent the ultimate, perfect expression of communal
ownership of capital. (Jay Honeck in r.a.p.)


Marty, Marty, Marty,

Someday maybe I'll make your sig line... g

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But the thrill we’ve never known
Is the thrill that’ll getcha
When you get your picture
On the cover of the Rolling Stone.

Montblack :-)

C J Campbell wrote:

I know! We should pass a law requiring all foreign nationals to wear tinfoil
hats with red streamers at least three feet long. That will fix the problem.

You can't do that! The hats will block the control signals the FBI sends out!

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

I know! We should pass a law requiring all foreign nationals to wear
tinfoil
hats with red streamers at least three feet long. That will fix the
problem.

You can't do that! The hats will block the control signals the FBI sends
out!

I was going to say that it would only get confused by the US citizens
who are already wearing such a device to stop the cosmic rays beamed
down by aliens.

Paul

kontiki wrote:

In my opinion the whole picture ID thing is feel-good lawmaking
that will cost more money and inconvenience in order to provide
an illusion of greater security.

You're absolutely wrong. It won't provide even an illusion of greater security.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.