Can I fly the NY VFR corridor w/o a XPNDR?

"Toks Desalu" wrote:

You cannot enter 30nm ring without a transponder.

Yes I can. My plane has no electrical systema nd I'm exempt
as I said. I fly in the 30 nm veil all the time. This was
just an extreme case, so I thought I'd see if there was
anything I was missing.

I fly in the 30 nm veil all the time. This was
just an extreme case, so I thought I'd see if there was
anything I was missing.

What i was worried about was someone spotting me on primary
radar, not knowing the FAR's and thinking "No transponder,
30 nm veil, approaching 9-11 ground zero - call out the
F-16's" There's no way for anyone to tell from radar that
I'm a legal exception to the transponder rules.

If I do fly the corridor (presuming no one comes up with a
reason why it's illegal) would you call anyone first (who
and say what?) or just figure it's legal, so why should I?

Mike wrote:

I fly in the 30 nm veil all the time. This was
just an extreme case, so I thought I'd see if there was
anything I was missing.

What i was worried about was someone spotting me on primary
radar, not knowing the FAR's and thinking "No transponder,
30 nm veil, approaching 9-11 ground zero - call out the
F-16's" There's no way for anyone to tell from radar that
I'm a legal exception to the transponder rules.

Legal or not, that would worry me too. Look at what an F-16 did to a
perfectly innocent school in southern NJ.

No doubt they'll look at your plane and assume you're carrying thousands of
pounds of high explosive.

- Andrew

You cannot enter 30nm ring without a transponder.
Toks Desalu
Dyin' to soar
PP-ASEL

Wrong. Do it all the time.

Deb

--
1946 Luscombe 8A (His)
1948 Luscombe 8E (Hers)
1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (Ours)
Jasper, Ga. (JZP)

re read the post.. he said he is covered by the exemption in 91.215, he has
no electrical system..
he can fly within the 30nm ring, stay below the ceiling and floors of the
class B not talk to a soul

but research is required for any TFRs or such

BT

"Toks Desalu" wrote in message
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You cannot enter 30nm ring without a transponder. However, I think you can
get a special permission from FSDO to enter or leave without transponder
for good reasons. I dont think they will give you a permission because you
want to fly into that corridor without a transponder.

Toks Desalu
Dyin' to soar
PP-ASEL


"Rosspilot" wrote in message
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Simple question. Can I fly the NY VFR corridor in a
transponderless aircraft that meets the exception
requirements of 91.215 (no electrical system)? It looks
like the answer is yes, provided I stay low enough (below
500' as I turn the Lady). Any new TFR or other restrictions
on this? Any good intros on doing it (freq's. suggested
reporting points, etc.) Thanks.



I'm not so sure about transponder-less a/c inside the 30 nm ring. I
would
check on that.

But, if so, the frequency is 123.05 on the Hudson River. Self-announce
position, stay right (as a highway).
www.Rosspilot.com

BTIZ wrote:

but research is required for any TFRs or such

Ah, yes!

Mike, baseball season's over, but pay attention next year. When the Yankees play home
games, the corridor is blocked at the upper end of Manhattan island.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

ospam (Rosspilot) wrote:

Simple question. Can I fly the NY VFR corridor in a
transponderless aircraft that meets the exception
requirements of 91.215 (no electrical system)? It looks
like the answer is yes, provided I stay low enough (below
500' as I turn the Lady). Any new TFR or other restrictions
on this? Any good intros on doing it (freq's. suggested
reporting points, etc.) Thanks.

I'm not so sure about transponder-less a/c inside the 30 nm ring. I would
check on that.

I did check, that's why I said I met the 91.215 exception
req't.

Mike wrote in message . ..
Simple question. Can I fly the NY VFR corridor in a
transponderless aircraft that meets the exception
requirements of 91.215 (no electrical system)? It looks
like the answer is yes, provided I stay low enough (below
500' as I turn the Lady). Any new TFR or other restrictions
on this? Any good intros on doing it (freq's. suggested
reporting points, etc.) Thanks.

M

Yes you most certainly can. This is, after all, a free country. Just
don't get caught.

Bryan

"bryan chaisone" wrote in message
om...
Mike wrote in message
. ..
Simple question. Can I fly the NY VFR corridor in a
transponderless aircraft that meets the exception
requirements of 91.215 (no electrical system)? It looks
like the answer is yes, provided I stay low enough (below
500' as I turn the Lady). Any new TFR or other restrictions
on this? Any good intros on doing it (freq's. suggested
reporting points, etc.) Thanks.


Yes you most certainly can. This is, after all, a free country. Just
don't get caught.


Semi-free country.