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Old January 18th 08, 01:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 15, 9:20 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
John writes:
How much does it pitch to the side if you don't put offsetting weight into
the passenger seat and how does it compare to the normal variation caused by
fuel burn from a single side at a time?


I never burn fuel from a single side at a time, so I cannot comment on that.
Both the Bonanza and the Baron let you draw fuel from both tanks, and that's
how I leave it set.


No, they don't.


If you are heavy and alone in the plane, it has a distinct tendency to bank
towards the heavy side. The Bonanza does this, anyway, so it's harder to
notice, but the Baron will do it, only not as obviously. When I first started
flying these aircraft I noticed odd banking tendencies and it took a while for
it to dawn on me that the aircraft was simply loaded unevenly.


Neither Bonanza (35 or A36) exhibits banking tendency with me solo in
the airplane (I weigh 195). How many tons is this pilot?

Dan

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Old January 16th 08, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 16, 8:58*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
John writes:
What is your expectation from your simulator experience?


I expect it to reasonably simulate weight and balance issues, which it does,
but not having flown the real thing, I don't know how accurate the simulation
is.


Will wonders never cease, he admits it at last! The answer is that
MSFS simulation is nothing like really flying.

Cheers
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Old January 16th 08, 01:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jan 15, 5:37*pm, WingFlaps wrote:
On Jan 16, 8:58*am, Mxsmanic wrote:


Will wonders never cease, he admits it at last! The answer is that
MSFS simulation is nothing like really flying.


I hope not because I still can't land the Cessna 150 in MSFS.

-Robert
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Old January 16th 08, 02:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary writes:

I hope not because I still can't land the Cessna 150 in MSFS.


Trust your instruments.
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Old January 16th 08, 03:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jan 15, 5:37?pm, WingFlaps wrote:
On Jan 16, 8:58?am, Mxsmanic wrote:


Will wonders never cease, he admits it at last! The answer is that
MSFS simulation is nothing like really flying.


I hope not because I still can't land the Cessna 150 in MSFS.


-Robert


You think that's a problem?

I can't taxi a C-172 in MSFS.

Damn thing always winds up in a ground loop.


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Old January 16th 08, 09:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote
On Jan 15, 5:37 pm, WingFlaps wrote:
Will wonders never cease, he admits it at last! The answer is that
MSFS simulation is nothing like really flying.


I hope not because I still can't land the Cessna 150 in MSFS.


::chuckle::

I use FSX to practice IFR (as a strictly VFR pilot) and landing is hard work
in the sim as so many clues are just not there. It's a wacky universe in
there, I can complete a credible (as in still flyable afterward) circuit in
a B737 but can't pass the MS PPL checkride!

FS are cheap to run, but the real word is far, far better. Sorta like
comparing sandpaper with a beach ......


David

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Old January 17th 08, 12:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Will wonders never cease, he admits it at last! The answer is that
MSFS simulation is nothing like really flying.


I hope not because I still can't land the Cessna 150 in MSFS.


There is no Cessna 150 in MSFS.
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Old January 16th 08, 02:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Weight and balance, ballast, trim when flying alone

WingFlaps writes:

Will wonders never cease, he admits it at last! The answer is that
MSFS simulation is nothing like really flying.


I didn't say it was nothing like really flying, which would be an absurd
exaggeration. I simply said that I don't know how accurately it simulates
weight and balance issues. They aren't difficult to simulate, so I imagine
it's pretty close.
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Old January 16th 08, 02:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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WingFlaps writes:

Will wonders never cease, he admits it at last! The answer is that
MSFS simulation is nothing like really flying.


I didn't say it was nothing like really flying,



It isn't anything like flying.


Bertie
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Old January 16th 08, 01:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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John writes:

What is your expectation from your simulator experience?


I expect it to reasonably simulate weight and balance issues, which it
does



No, it doesn;'t



Bertie
 




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