Preflighting my plane - Video

Gezellig wrote in news:6jjih3F3lpbtU1
@mid.individual.net:

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:43:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sep 19, 3:28*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at the
airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything else that
might look strange.

Definately good one for the checklist. Never thought of this and
while I always step back after doing the entire check list for a last
once over (long video - part 2, you will see me do this at the very
end) I never thought about skin wrinkles.

I look and feel for these. What about places you can't either touch or
see?


Well, you can only do so much, but damage from a hard landing will usually
give some sort of sign on the outside.


Bertie

"Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| " wrote in
| news:baaaeed8-05e4-498d-
| :
|
| Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice to hear
| input to make me a safer pilot!
|
|
| Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and you use
| the checklist.
|
| Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
|
| One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at the
| airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything else
| that might look strange.
| Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a good
| shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like elongated
| wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly, it will
| get any
fuel
| that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out of it's
| depression and into the sump.
|
|
|
|
| Bertie

You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor, you dumb
ass.



Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.

Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have been more
convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.


Pretty clear you have your head so firmly up your own butt you're
licking your tonsils from the back.

Bertie

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Not quite sure I understand the above??

Obviously has something to do with the sump jiggies, and mine are
"spring loaded" and pressed in using the outer edge of the fuel sump
diddy rather then a center piece like a Cessna.

Does the style of sump make any difference?

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It's hard to imagine were every divot, rib, baffle, fitting or
fastener might be in a tank. Although the drain is in the designed low
point, droplets of water can cling to imperfections elsewhere.
Condensation also collects in the tanks unwetted areas, and doesn't
join the mix until splashed.

Carefully rocking the wings, from the wing tip, sloshes the fuel
around and helps rinse trapped droplets to the drain area.



Awww, you read my poast!

Good k00k!

Goog boi!


Here's a treat, fjukkktard!

Smakkkk!



Bertie

"Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| " wrote in
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| On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
|
| No, nothing to do with the sump drains themselves. The sump area
| is a small depession at the bottom of the tank. All water in the
| tank should go there by design. However most tanks have small
| imperfections in them where water can get into and stick there.
| You do a nice calm walkaround and drain your fuel and then when
| you start taxying, the water becomes dislodged and gets into a
| feed port. With some designs, this can add up to a lot of water...
|
| Gotchya, gotchya and gotchya, never thought of what you say, and
| makes perfect sense.
|
| Tanks I have are "stainless steel" and not bladders, so I
| **think**I have a lesser risk of water settling where it shouldn't
| be but like you say, a good shake would be prudent to better assure
| the water indeed does settle down to the sumps so it gets sumped
| out.
|
| Depends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance against
| it.
Try
| it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it all out
| and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some more.
|
| BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be wrong,
| but
I've
| never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
|
|
|
| Bertie
|
|




Thanks again for repropogating my poast.


you'e a hell of a k00k.


Bertie

"Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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|a wrote in
| news:2f153a45-9c80-4001-a2de-
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|
| On Sep 19, 6:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| " wrote in
| news:7b0f558c-1f70-462f-
| :
|
|
|
| On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
|
| No, nothing to do with the sump drains themselves. The sump
area
| is a small depession at the bottom of the tank. All water in
the
| tank shoul
| d
| go there by design. However most tanks have small imperfections
in
| the
| m
| where water can get into and stick there. You do a nice calm
| walkaroun
| d
| and drain your fuel and then when you start taxying, the water
| becomes dislodged and gets into a feed port. With some designs,
| this can add u
| p
| to a lot of water...
|
| Gotchya, gotchya and gotchya, never thought of what you say, and
| makes perfect sense.
|
| Tanks I have are "stainless steel" and not bladders, so I
| **think**I have a lesser risk of water settling where it
shouldn't
| be but like you say, a good shake would be prudent to better
assure
| the water indeed does settle down to the sumps so it gets sumped
| out.
|
| Depends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance
against
| it. T
| ry
| it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it all
out
| and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some more.
|
| BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be wrong,
| but I'
| ve
| never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
|
| Bertie
|
|
|
| Big design flaw on the early M20J (Mooney 201) was the fuel tanks
were
| wet wing, and the seam sealant failed. If one smells gas in flight
it
| is NOT good, and we did. Huge pain in the ass to reseal. The other
| thing about those tanks is the fuel caps were a little tricky to
put
| back right (this was back in the old days when the fuel truck would
| come to the airplane) and if they were not put on right rain got in
| big time. Nothing like draining a tank in a rain storm while
wearing a
| suit!
|
|
| Yeah, I know the caps you're talking about. They were a bitch to get
on.
| I sem to remember a lot of Mooneys having bladders, though. Earlier
ones
| maybe? Maybe wood wing airplanes?
|
|
| Bertie
|




Good fanboi!



Bertie

jeremy wrote in
:

Mick wrote:

Carefully rocking the wings, from the wing tip, sloshes the fuel
around and helps rinse trapped droplets to the drain area.

Best done with plenty of air underneath you.



Most of Maxie's air is betwixt his ears.


Bertie

"jeremy" wrote in message
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| Mick wrote:
|
| Carefully rocking the wings, from the wing tip, sloshes the fuel around
and
| helps rinse trapped droplets to the drain area.
|
| Best done with plenty of air underneath you.
|
| JJ

Best done during preflight as well.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :
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|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| | " wrote in
| | news:62dfd245-3863-4a15-90c1-a645f988c237
| @y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com
| | :
| |
| | On Sep 19, 5:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| | " wrote in news:7b0f558c-
| |
| | epends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance against
| | it. Try
| | it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it all
| | out and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some more.
| |
| | BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be wrong,
| | but I'
| | ve
| | never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
| |
| | Bertie
| |
| | Surprisingly, I can count on one hand getting water in the fuel and
| | my bet how it got in there is my carelessness on taking the caps
| | off after a rain and the residual rain underneath the lever sneaks
| | into the tank. But I will give what you say above a try, nothing
| | gain, nothing loss but the adventure.
| |
| |
| | Yeah, it's rare enough. depends on the airplane and where you live.
| | We had an accident near where I live with an engine failure on
| | takeoff after some very heavy rain. The guys were OK, but the
| | airplane was destroyed ( Cherokee). There was no problem found with
| | the engine. I think thye might have had this problem.
| |
| |
| |
| | Bertie
|
|
|
|
| Thanks, Wasn't sure if this propogated fully.
|
|
|
| You're performing a public service afer all by ensuring my wisdom
| reaches around the globe.
|
|
| Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
| Gezellig wrote in news:6jjih3F3lpbtU1
| @mid.individual.net:
|
| On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:43:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
|
| On Sep 19, 3:28 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
|
| One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at the
| airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything else
that
| might look strange.
|
| Definately good one for the checklist. Never thought of this and
| while I always step back after doing the entire check list for a last
| once over (long video - part 2, you will see me do this at the very
| end) I never thought about skin wrinkles.
|
| I look and feel for these. What about places you can't either touch or
| see?
|
|
| Well, you can only do so much, but damage from a hard landing will usually
| give some sort of sign on the outside.
|
|
| Bertie
|

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
| "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in :
|
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| | " wrote in
| | news:baaaeed8-05e4-498d-
| | :
| |
| | Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| | Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice to hear
| | input to make me a safer pilot!
| |
| |
| | Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and you use
| | the checklist.
| |
| | Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
| |
| | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at the
| | airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything else
| | that might look strange.
| | Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a good
| | shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| | this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like elongated
| | wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly, it will
| | get any
| fuel
| | that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out of it's
| | depression and into the sump.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | Bertie
|
| You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor, you dumb
| ass.
|
|
|
| Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.
|
| Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have been more
| convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.
|
|
| Pretty clear you have your head so firmly up your own butt you're
| licking your tonsils from the back.
|
| Bertie
|
|