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Old January 27th 05, 03:31 AM
George Patterson
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Corky Scott wrote:

Nothing happened right away, not at idle anyway. The prop missed the
still attached towbar. But when the engine was revved up for the
runnup, the lowered pressure in front of the prop sucked the tow bar
up and I guess caused a sudden stop.


Machado tells the story of a plane spotted taxiing with the towbar still
attached. Someone radioed to stop him from taking off.

He had just landed.

George Patterson
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Old January 27th 05, 05:50 PM
Robert A. Barker
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"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Corky Scott wrote:

Nothing happened right away, not at idle anyway. The prop missed the
still attached towbar. But when the engine was revved up for the
runnup, the lowered pressure in front of the prop sucked the tow bar
up and I guess caused a sudden stop.


Machado tells the story of a plane spotted taxiing with the towbar still
attached. Someone radioed to stop him from taking off.

He had just landed.

George Patterson
He who marries for money earns every penny of it.


I watched one take start to take off with the tow bar
attached.It dropped off just as the plane left the ground.
No damage as far as I know.

Bob Barker N8749S


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Old January 28th 05, 01:09 AM
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 03:31:38 GMT, George Patterson
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Corky Scott wrote:

Nothing happened right away, not at idle anyway. The prop missed the
still attached towbar. But when the engine was revved up for the
runnup, the lowered pressure in front of the prop sucked the tow bar
up and I guess caused a sudden stop.


Machado tells the story of a plane spotted taxiing with the towbar still
attached. Someone radioed to stop him from taking off.


A few years back, Joyce and I were headed over to Vassar MI from 3BS.
On the way we heard a guy in a Grumman Tiger ask a guy if he was in
the area. Hearing an affirmative he asked if the other plane could
join up with him. A different voice asked, "Forget something?".
There was a pause and as I recall the answer was, "Ahhhh Maybe".
Other voice, "something like a tow bar maybe?". Answer, "Not sure".

The second plane joined up and sure enough, "You have something
hanging from the nose gear. Kinda looks like a tow bar.

So, he headed back to Harry Brown airport. He set it down nice and
easy and the tow bar just skidded along. They removed the tow bar and
he went back out.


He had just landed.


I think I remember hearing some one radio this guy when he was on the
ground to tell him he still had the tow bar attached and to not take
off. He too, told them he'd just landed.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
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Old January 26th 05, 08:58 PM
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Once. http://pad39a.com/gene/flypix0.html
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Old January 27th 05, 12:51 AM
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Once. http://pad39a.com/gene/flypix0.html
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You mention co-coordinating the ailerons with the wind condition, and the
use of power, but you don't mention the use of elevator.

If you were originally (okay) in the quartering tailwind, might you not have
had the elevator full down (forward) as recommended, which would have caused
the tail-lift once in a headwind situation??? (and power would have just
added even more lift to the tail).

Or do you recall pulling the elevator back (up) as you crossed from
tailwind-to-headwind?




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Old January 27th 05, 05:05 AM
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I was pretty much right at the point where the wind went from tail to
head. Elevator control was something that simply wasn't instinctive to
me, and it happened in a split second.
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Old January 28th 05, 01:34 AM
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message oups.com...
I was pretty much right at the point where the wind went from tail to
head. Elevator control was something that simply wasn't instinctive to
me, and it happened in a split second.
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Tricycle gear while taxiing; always dive into the wind or dive away from it...


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Old January 28th 05, 05:01 PM
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Dive both ways?
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Old January 28th 05, 05:18 PM
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"Blueskies" wrote in message
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message

oups.com...
I was pretty much right at the point where the wind went from tail to
head. Elevator control was something that simply wasn't instinctive to
me, and it happened in a split second.
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Gene Seibel
Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.



Tricycle gear while taxiing; always dive into the wind or dive away from

it...

Bank into a quartering headwind, neutral elevator; dive away from a
quartering tailwind .


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Old January 27th 05, 12:54 AM
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message oups.com...
Once. http://pad39a.com/gene/flypix0.html
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Because I fly, I envy no one.


Bummer, looked like a nice bird. My first airplane ride was in a TriPacer...


 




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