Final Glides: GPS or Pressure Altitude?

One time at Ely when they had the fire on the mountain to the east, the firefighters also camped out with us. No tents, they just slept next to the truck on ground. I think that was early June.

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 5:25:56 PM UTC-7, wrote:
One time at Ely when they had the fire on the mountain to the east, the firefighters also camped out with us. No tents, they just slept next to the truck on ground. I think that was early June.

sorry, I meant early July.

wrote on 7/25/2016 5:25 PM:
One time at Ely when they had the fire on the mountain to the east,
the firefighters also camped out with us. No tents, they just slept
next to the truck on ground. I think that was early June.

Were they wearing shorts and sandals? ;^)

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On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 6:35:41 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
wrote on 7/25/2016 5:25 PM:
One time at Ely when they had the fire on the mountain to the east,
the firefighters also camped out with us. No tents, they just slept
next to the truck on ground. I think that was early June.

Were they wearing shorts and sandals? ;^)

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"

https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

I CAN'T BELIEVE some of these posts! Do you REALLY think that your are going to land out ONLY on the warm nights? One night this month in Nevada we had a FREEZE WARNING! That's right, a freeze warning.

The saying goes like this: plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Tom

I CAN'T BELIEVE some of these posts! Do you REALLY think that your are going to land out ONLY on the warm nights? One night this month in Nevada we had a FREEZE WARNING! That's right, a freeze warning.

The saying goes like this: plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Tom

Let's get real here. When you are taking off in over 100 temps, you are not going to be wearing clothes for a cold night in the mountains! And some cockpits simply don't have the room for all the stuff some of you say you carry (Ls6 & 8s come to mind).

So what. You should have everything you need to survive strapped to your butt - your chute. If it gets chilly, pop that expensive seat cushion and get some use out of it!

So carry a Spot, wear a chute with a mirror attached, and go fly...

Kirk
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On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:27:35 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
I CAN'T BELIEVE some of these posts! Do you REALLY think that your are going to land out ONLY on the warm nights? One night this month in Nevada we had a FREEZE WARNING! That's right, a freeze warning.

The saying goes like this: plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Tom

Let's get real here. When you are taking off in over 100 temps, you are not going to be wearing clothes for a cold night in the mountains! And some cockpits simply don't have the room for all the stuff some of you say you carry (Ls6 & 8s come to mind).

So what. You should have everything you need to survive strapped to your butt - your chute. If it gets chilly, pop that expensive seat cushion and get some use out of it!

So carry a Spot, wear a chute with a mirror attached, and go fly...

Kirk
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Hello, Fred Drift:
All of this has a profound effect on final glide calculations.
Jim

I also carry a flint and steel which I acquired at survival school back
in '74. It still works and I haven't needed it (yet).

On 7/26/2016 7:27 AM, kirk.stant wrote:
I CAN'T BELIEVE some of these posts! Do you REALLY think that your are going to land out ONLY on the warm nights? One night this month in Nevada we had a FREEZE WARNING! That's right, a freeze warning.

The saying goes like this: plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Tom
Let's get real here. When you are taking off in over 100 temps, you are not going to be wearing clothes for a cold night in the mountains! And some cockpits simply don't have the room for all the stuff some of you say you carry (Ls6 & 8s come to mind).

So what. You should have everything you need to survive strapped to your butt - your chute. If it gets chilly, pop that expensive seat cushion and get some use out of it!

So carry a Spot, wear a chute with a mirror attached, and go fly...

Kirk
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--
Dan, 5J

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:27:35 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
I CAN'T BELIEVE some of these posts! Do you REALLY think that your are going to land out ONLY on the warm nights? One night this month in Nevada we had a FREEZE WARNING! That's right, a freeze warning.

The saying goes like this: plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Tom

Let's get real here. When you are taking off in over 100 temps, you are not going to be wearing clothes for a cold night in the mountains! And some cockpits simply don't have the room for all the stuff some of you say you carry (Ls6 & 8s come to mind).

So what. You should have everything you need to survive strapped to your butt - your chute. If it gets chilly, pop that expensive seat cushion and get some use out of it!

So carry a Spot, wear a chute with a mirror attached, and go fly...

Kirk
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You can wear Jockey shorts and a tank top for all I care. Myself, I WILL wear full length pants and a long sleeved shirt and shoes that I can make a long hike in. Plus I will have a jacket, extra water, flash light, fire starter, whistle, first aid kit, extra food and a handheld radio. On top of that I have the chute option that you mentioned.

Bottom line: there IS NO substitute for being prepared. You WILL have to deal with WHATEVER situation you encounter with the equipment that you launch with. Having done some serious expeditionary type mountaineering in my younger years I am somewhat more attuned to this issue than you seem to be.

Tom

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:37:04 PM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
You can wear Jockey shorts and a tank top for all I care. Myself, I WILL wear full length pants and a long sleeved shirt and shoes that I can make a long hike in. Plus I will have a jacket, extra water, flash light, fire starter, whistle, first aid kit, extra food and a handheld radio. On top of that I have the chute option that you mentioned.

With the exception of a jacket and a handheld, I carry pretty much the same (stripped down to the bare minimum); if it's chilly I may even throw in a jacket. But if it's a hot, humid day I'll dress accordingly. I agree that you have to think about survival, but that doesn't mean carrying a tent with you!

Bottom line: there IS NO substitute for being prepared. You WILL have to deal with WHATEVER situation you encounter with the equipment that you launch with. Having done some serious expeditionary type mountaineering in my younger years I am somewhat more attuned to this issue than you seem to be.

Really? Funny, I guess all those military survival courses I took didn't teach me much. Anyway - Glad you have room in your glider for all that survival gear, you must fly over some really scary terrain - not my problem down here in southern Illinois!

Cheers,

Kirk
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On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 11:40:19 AM UTC-5, kirk.stant wrote:
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:37:04 PM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
You can wear Jockey shorts and a tank top for all I care. Myself, I WILL wear full length pants and a long sleeved shirt and shoes that I can make a long hike in. Plus I will have a jacket, extra water, flash light, fire starter, whistle, first aid kit, extra food and a handheld radio. On top of that I have the chute option that you mentioned.

With the exception of a jacket and a handheld, I carry pretty much the same (stripped down to the bare minimum); if it's chilly I may even throw in a jacket. But if it's a hot, humid day I'll dress accordingly. I agree that you have to think about survival, but that doesn't mean carrying a tent with you!

Bottom line: there IS NO substitute for being prepared. You WILL have to deal with WHATEVER situation you encounter with the equipment that you launch with. Having done some serious expeditionary type mountaineering in my younger years I am somewhat more attuned to this issue than you seem to be..

Really? Funny, I guess all those military survival courses I took didn't teach me much. Anyway - Glad you have room in your glider for all that survival gear, you must fly over some really scary terrain - not my problem down here in southern Illinois!

Cheers,

Kirk
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Kirk, pry yourself away from the stinkin' prairie of IL (I know it well) and come fly with us out West occasionally. You'll get an appreciation for what Tom is saying. But wait, during your military career you must have spent some time over the high desert, right?
Herb