Compass

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Boy oh boy... do you really read a post before you're answering to it (g)?
If you had followed this thread, then you'd know that this is exactly what
I wrote.

This discussion started when I wrote that "the whisky compass method
doesn't work in real life". I added that if you ever manage to be in a
situation where you need an emergency descent through IMC, then the only
procedure which may work is the one I mentioned. I repeat: *emergency
procedure* and *may*. BTW, many modern gliders will go from a spin into a
spiral dive after a couple of turns, so that old "spin it down" emergenca
procedure is a no-no in modern ships, and is actually explicitely
forbidden in some POHs for that very reason.

Sorry 'bout that.

I had read the whole thread, but took your last response to bagmaker's post
out of context. No offense intended.

bumper

On Feb 23, 6:20*am, chipsoars wrote:
On Feb 21, 3:29*pm, Ramy wrote:





On Feb 18, 10:33*am, Bullwinkle wrote:

On 2/18/08 10:30 AM, in article
,

"thermalrider" wrote:
On Feb 17, 5:48*pm, wrote:
Does an experimental ASW20B require a compass to be legal. *The
minimum equipment list in the amnual does not specify a compass?

What does the POH say is the required minimum equipment?
What does the Type Certificate say?

Why would someone not want a compass?

Since it either takes space in the panel or worse, restrict forward
visibility if installed on the glare shield.
The ASW27 manual does NOT list compass as required instrument.

Ramy

The manual may not, but the Equipment list in TCDS dated January 30,
1997 requires "1 Magnetic direction indicator (Compass)"- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmm, my ASW27A manual dated January 20, 1997, section 2.12, listed
compass as required only in Belgium or France, or for cloud flying.
Otherwise only an ASI, Altimeter and safety harness is required as
minimum equipment. So according to the manual, compass is not required
in USA.

Ramy

On Feb 25, 8:08 pm, Ramy wrote:
On Feb 23, 6:20 am, chipsoars wrote:



On Feb 21, 3:29 pm, Ramy wrote:

On Feb 18, 10:33 am, Bullwinkle wrote:

On 2/18/08 10:30 AM, in article
,

"thermalrider" wrote:
On Feb 17, 5:48 pm, wrote:
Does an experimental ASW20B require a compass to be legal. The
minimum equipment list in the amnual does not specify a compass?

What does the POH say is the required minimum equipment?
What does the Type Certificate say?

Why would someone not want a compass?

Since it either takes space in the panel or worse, restrict forward
visibility if installed on the glare shield.
The ASW27 manual does NOT list compass as required instrument.

Ramy

The manual may not, but the Equipment list in TCDS dated January 30,
1997 requires "1 Magnetic direction indicator (Compass)"- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmm, my ASW27A manual dated January 20, 1997, section 2.12, listed
compass as required only in Belgium or France, or for cloud flying.
Otherwise only an ASI, Altimeter and safety harness is required as
minimum equipment. So according to the manual, compass is not required
in USA.

Ramy

The point was, regardless of the manual according the the
airworthiness certificate it is required, see

http://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/f7caac07cc44fd7b86256cc30058c999/$FILE/G05ce.PDF

Unless you are running it as experimental I'm pretty sure this applies
to your ship. I'll have a spare compass for sale :-)

Darryl

On Feb 26, 12:02*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Feb 25, 8:08 pm, Ramy wrote:





On Feb 23, 6:20 am, chipsoars wrote:

On Feb 21, 3:29 pm, Ramy wrote:

On Feb 18, 10:33 am, Bullwinkle wrote:

On 2/18/08 10:30 AM, in article
,

"thermalrider" wrote:
On Feb 17, 5:48 pm, wrote:
Does an experimental ASW20B require a compass to be legal. *The
minimum equipment list in the amnual does not specify a compass?

What does the POH say is the required minimum equipment?
What does the Type Certificate say?

Why would someone not want a compass?

Since it either takes space in the panel or worse, restrict forward
visibility if installed on the glare shield.
The ASW27 manual does NOT list compass as required instrument.

Ramy

The manual may not, but the Equipment list in TCDS dated January 30,
1997 requires "1 Magnetic direction indicator (Compass)"- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmm, my ASW27A manual dated January 20, 1997, section 2.12, *listed
compass as required only in Belgium or France, or for cloud flying.
Otherwise only an ASI, Altimeter and safety harness is required as
minimum equipment. So according to the manual, compass is not required
in USA.

Ramy

The point was, regardless of the manual according the the
airworthiness certificate it is required, see

http://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_gu...keModel.nsf/0/...

Unless you are running it as experimental I'm pretty sure this applies
to your ship. I'll have a spare compass for sale :-)

Darryl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hey Darryl, I'll pretend I did not read your reply so I can continue
to believe I am flying legally without a compass. As far as I am
concerned, my manual says I can, and if I am ever questioned about it
in a ramp check (how often do we get those anyway) I will show my
manual to the FAA inspector and while he is trying to figure out the
discrepancy I will waggle my rudder :-)

Ramy