Preflighting my plane - Video

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| | Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| | Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice to hear
| | input to make me a safer pilot!
| |
| |
| | Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and you use
| | the checklist.
| |
| | Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
| |
| | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at the
| | airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything else
| | that might look strange.
| | Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a good
| | shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| | this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like elongated
| | wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly, it will
| | get any
| fuel
| | that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out of it's
| | depression and into the sump.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | Bertie
|
| You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor, you dumb
| ass.
|
|
|
| Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.
|
| Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have been more
| convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.
|
|
| Pretty clear you have your head so firmly up your own butt you're
| licking your tonsils from the back.
|
| Bertie
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| Not quite sure I understand the above??
|
| Obviously has something to do with the sump jiggies, and mine are
| "spring loaded" and pressed in using the outer edge of the fuel sump
| diddy rather then a center piece like a Cessna.
|
| Does the style of sump make any difference?
|
| -------------------------------------------------------
|
| It's hard to imagine were every divot, rib, baffle, fitting or
| fastener might be in a tank. Although the drain is in the designed low
| point, droplets of water can cling to imperfections elsewhere.
| Condensation also collects in the tanks unwetted areas, and doesn't
| join the mix until splashed.
|
| Carefully rocking the wings, from the wing tip, sloshes the fuel
| around and helps rinse trapped droplets to the drain area.
|
|
|
| Awww, you read my poast!
|
| Good k00k!
|
| Goog boi!
|
|
| Here's a treat, fjukkktard!
|
| Smakkkk!
|
|
|
| Bertie

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| | On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| |
| | No, nothing to do with the sump drains themselves. The sump area
| | is a small depession at the bottom of the tank. All water in the
| | tank should go there by design. However most tanks have small
| | imperfections in them where water can get into and stick there.
| | You do a nice calm walkaround and drain your fuel and then when
| | you start taxying, the water becomes dislodged and gets into a
| | feed port. With some designs, this can add up to a lot of water...
| |
| | Gotchya, gotchya and gotchya, never thought of what you say, and
| | makes perfect sense.
| |
| | Tanks I have are "stainless steel" and not bladders, so I
| | **think**I have a lesser risk of water settling where it shouldn't
| | be but like you say, a good shake would be prudent to better assure
| | the water indeed does settle down to the sumps so it gets sumped
| | out.
| |
| | Depends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance against
| | it.
| Try
| | it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it all out
| | and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some more.
| |
| | BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be wrong,
| | but
| I've
| | never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
| |
| |
| |
| | Bertie
| |
| |
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|
|
|
| Thanks again for repropogating my poast.
|
|
| you'e a hell of a k00k.
|
|
| Bertie

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| | On Sep 19, 6:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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| | On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| |
| | No, nothing to do with the sump drains themselves. The sump
| area
| | is a small depession at the bottom of the tank. All water in
| the
| | tank shoul
| | d
| | go there by design. However most tanks have small imperfections
| in
| | the
| | m
| | where water can get into and stick there. You do a nice calm
| | walkaroun
| | d
| | and drain your fuel and then when you start taxying, the water
| | becomes dislodged and gets into a feed port. With some designs,
| | this can add u
| | p
| | to a lot of water...
| |
| | Gotchya, gotchya and gotchya, never thought of what you say, and
| | makes perfect sense.
| |
| | Tanks I have are "stainless steel" and not bladders, so I
| | **think**I have a lesser risk of water settling where it
| shouldn't
| | be but like you say, a good shake would be prudent to better
| assure
| | the water indeed does settle down to the sumps so it gets sumped
| | out.
| |
| | Depends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance
| against
| | it. T
| | ry
| | it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it all
| out
| | and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some more.
| |
| | BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be wrong,
| | but I'
| | ve
| | never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
| |
| | Bertie
| |
| |
| |
| | Big design flaw on the early M20J (Mooney 201) was the fuel tanks
| were
| | wet wing, and the seam sealant failed. If one smells gas in flight
| it
| | is NOT good, and we did. Huge pain in the ass to reseal. The other
| | thing about those tanks is the fuel caps were a little tricky to
| put
| | back right (this was back in the old days when the fuel truck would
| | come to the airplane) and if they were not put on right rain got in
| | big time. Nothing like draining a tank in a rain storm while
| wearing a
| | suit!
| |
| |
| | Yeah, I know the caps you're talking about. They were a bitch to get
| on.
| | I sem to remember a lot of Mooneys having bladders, though. Earlier
| ones
| | maybe? Maybe wood wing airplanes?
| |
| |
| | Bertie
| |
|
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| Good fanboi!
|
|
|
| Bertie

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| | | " wrote in
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| | | :
| | |
| | | Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| | | Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice to
| hear
| | | input to make me a safer pilot!
| | |
| | |
| | | Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and you use
| | | the checklist.
| | |
| | | Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
| | |
| | | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at the
| | | airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything else
| | | that might look strange.
| | | Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a good
| | | shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| | | this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like elongated
| | | wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly, it
| will
| | | get any
| | fuel
| | | that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out of
| it's
| | | depression and into the sump.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
| |
| | You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor, you dumb
| | ass.
| |
| |
| |
| | Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.
| |
| | Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have been
| more
| | convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.
| |
| |
| | Pretty clear you have your head so firmly up your own butt you're
| | licking your tonsils from the back.
| |
| | Bertie
| |
| |
|
|
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|
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| | | " wrote in
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| | | :
| | |
| | | Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| | | Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice to
| hear
| | | input to make me a safer pilot!
| | |
| | |
| | | Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and you use
| | | the checklist.
| | |
| | | Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
| | |
| | | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at the
| | | airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything else
| | | that might look strange.
| | | Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a good
| | | shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| | | this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like elongated
| | | wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly, it
| will
| | | get any
| | fuel
| | | that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out of
| it's
| | | depression and into the sump.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
| |
| | You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor, you dumb
| | ass.
| |
| |
| |
| | Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.
| |
| | Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have been
| more
| | convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.
| |
| |
| | Pretty clear you have your head so firmly up your own butt you're
| | licking your tonsils from the back.
| |
| | Bertie
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
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|

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| | Gezellig wrote in news:6jjih3F3lpbtU1
| | @mid.individual.net:
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| | On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:43:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
| |
| | On Sep 19, 3:28 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| |
| | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at
| | the airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything
| | else
| that
| | might look strange.
| |
| | Definately good one for the checklist. Never thought of this and
| | while I always step back after doing the entire check list for a
| | last once over (long video - part 2, you will see me do this at
| | the very end) I never thought about skin wrinkles.
| |
| | I look and feel for these. What about places you can't either touch
| | or see?
| |
| |
| | Well, you can only do so much, but damage from a hard landing will
| | usually give some sort of sign on the outside.
| |
| |
| | Bertie
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| | @y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com
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| | |
| | | On Sep 19, 5:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| | | " wrote in news:7b0f558c-
| | |
| | | epends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance
| against
| | | it. Try
| | | it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it
| all
| | | out and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some
| more.
| | |
| | | BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be
| wrong,
| | | but I'
| | | ve
| | | never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
| | |
| | | Bertie
| | |
| | | Surprisingly, I can count on one hand getting water in the fuel
| and
| | | my bet how it got in there is my carelessness on taking the caps
| | | off after a rain and the residual rain underneath the lever
| sneaks
| | | into the tank. But I will give what you say above a try,
| nothing
| | | gain, nothing loss but the adventure.
| | |
| | |
| | | Yeah, it's rare enough. depends on the airplane and where you
| live.
| | | We had an accident near where I live with an engine failure on
| | | takeoff after some very heavy rain. The guys were OK, but the
| | | airplane was destroyed ( Cherokee). There was no problem found
| with
| | | the engine. I think thye might have had this problem.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | Thanks, Wasn't sure if this propogated fully.
| |
| |
| |
| | You're performing a public service afer all by ensuring my wisdom
| | reaches around the globe.
| |
| |
| | Bertie
|
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| | Not quite sure I understand the above??
| |
| | Obviously has something to do with the sump jiggies, and mine are
| | "spring loaded" and pressed in using the outer edge of the fuel sump
| | diddy rather then a center piece like a Cessna.
| |
| | Does the style of sump make any difference?
| |
| | -------------------------------------------------------
| |
| | It's hard to imagine were every divot, rib, baffle, fitting or
| | fastener might be in a tank. Although the drain is in the designed
low
| | point, droplets of water can cling to imperfections elsewhere.
| | Condensation also collects in the tanks unwetted areas, and doesn't
| | join the mix until splashed.
| |
| | Carefully rocking the wings, from the wing tip, sloshes the fuel
| | around and helps rinse trapped droplets to the drain area.
| |
| |
| |
| | Awww, you read my poast!
| |
| | Good k00k!
| |
| | Goog boi!
| |
| |
| | Here's a treat, fjukkktard!
| |
| | Smakkkk!
| |
| |
| |
| | Bertie
|
|
|
|
| Good Kookieboi!
|
|
|
| Bertie

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| | |
| | | On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| | |
| | | No, nothing to do with the sump drains themselves. The sump
| area
| | | is a small depession at the bottom of the tank. All water in
| the
| | | tank should go there by design. However most tanks have small
| | | imperfections in them where water can get into and stick there.
| | | You do a nice calm walkaround and drain your fuel and then when
| | | you start taxying, the water becomes dislodged and gets into a
| | | feed port. With some designs, this can add up to a lot of
| water...
| | |
| | | Gotchya, gotchya and gotchya, never thought of what you say, and
| | | makes perfect sense.
| | |
| | | Tanks I have are "stainless steel" and not bladders, so I
| | | **think**I have a lesser risk of water settling where it
| shouldn't
| | | be but like you say, a good shake would be prudent to better
| assure
| | | the water indeed does settle down to the sumps so it gets sumped
| | | out.
| | |
| | | Depends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance
| against
| | | it.
| | Try
| | | it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it all
| out
| | | and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some more.
| | |
| | | BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be wrong,
| | | but
| | I've
| | | never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | Thanks again for repropogating my poast.
| |
| |
| | you'e a hell of a k00k.
| |
| |
| | Bertie
|
|
|
|
| A HELL of a k00k!
|
|
| Bertie