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| | | On Sep 19, 6:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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| | | On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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| | | No, nothing to do with the sump drains themselves. The sump
| | area
| | | is a small depession at the bottom of the tank. All water in
| | the
| | | tank shoul
| | | d
| | | go there by design. However most tanks have small
| imperfections
| | in
| | | the
| | | m
| | | where water can get into and stick there. You do a nice calm
| | | walkaroun
| | | d
| | | and drain your fuel and then when you start taxying, the
| water
| | | becomes dislodged and gets into a feed port. With some
| designs,
| | | this can add u
| | | p
| | | to a lot of water...
| | |
| | | Gotchya, gotchya and gotchya, never thought of what you say,
| and
| | | makes perfect sense.
| | |
| | | Tanks I have are "stainless steel" and not bladders, so I
| | | **think**I have a lesser risk of water settling where it
| | shouldn't
| | | be but like you say, a good shake would be prudent to better
| | assure
| | | the water indeed does settle down to the sumps so it gets
| sumped
| | | out.
| | |
| | | Depends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance
| | against
| | | it. T
| | | ry
| | | it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it
| all
| | out
| | | and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some more.
| | |
| | | BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be
| wrong,
| | | but I'
| | | ve
| | | never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
| | |
| | | Bertie
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Big design flaw on the early M20J (Mooney 201) was the fuel
| tanks
| | were
| | | wet wing, and the seam sealant failed. If one smells gas in
| flight
| | it
| | | is NOT good, and we did. Huge pain in the ass to reseal. The
| other
| | | thing about those tanks is the fuel caps were a little tricky to
| | put
| | | back right (this was back in the old days when the fuel truck
| would
| | | come to the airplane) and if they were not put on right rain got
| in
| | | big time. Nothing like draining a tank in a rain storm while
| | wearing a
| | | suit!
| | |
| | |
| | | Yeah, I know the caps you're talking about. They were a bitch to
| get
| | on.
| | | I sem to remember a lot of Mooneys having bladders, though.
| Earlier
| | ones
| | | maybe? Maybe wood wing airplanes?
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | Good fanboi!
| |
| |
| |
| | Bertie
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|
| Here's another treat!
|
|
| Thukk.
|
|
| Bertie

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| | | | On Sep 19, 6:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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| | | |
| | | | On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| | | |
| | | | No, nothing to do with the sump drains themselves. The
| sump
| | | area
| | | | is a small depession at the bottom of the tank. All water
| in
| | | the
| | | | tank shoul
| | | | d
| | | | go there by design. However most tanks have small
| | imperfections
| | | in
| | | | the
| | | | m
| | | | where water can get into and stick there. You do a nice
| calm
| | | | walkaroun
| | | | d
| | | | and drain your fuel and then when you start taxying, the
| | water
| | | | becomes dislodged and gets into a feed port. With some
| | designs,
| | | | this can add u
| | | | p
| | | | to a lot of water...
| | | |
| | | | Gotchya, gotchya and gotchya, never thought of what you
| say,
| | and
| | | | makes perfect sense.
| | | |
| | | | Tanks I have are "stainless steel" and not bladders, so I
| | | | **think**I have a lesser risk of water settling where it
| | | shouldn't
| | | | be but like you say, a good shake would be prudent to
| better
| | | assure
| | | | the water indeed does settle down to the sumps so it gets
| | sumped
| | | | out.
| | | |
| | | | Depends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance
| | | against
| | | | it. T
| | | | ry
| | | | it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain
| it
| | all
| | | out
| | | | and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some
| more.
| | | |
| | | | BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be
| | wrong,
| | | | but I'
| | | | ve
| | | | never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
| | | |
| | | | Bertie
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Big design flaw on the early M20J (Mooney 201) was the fuel
| | tanks
| | | were
| | | | wet wing, and the seam sealant failed. If one smells gas in
| | flight
| | | it
| | | | is NOT good, and we did. Huge pain in the ass to reseal. The
| | other
| | | | thing about those tanks is the fuel caps were a little tricky
| to
| | | put
| | | | back right (this was back in the old days when the fuel truck
| | would
| | | | come to the airplane) and if they were not put on right rain
| got
| | in
| | | | big time. Nothing like draining a tank in a rain storm while
| | | wearing a
| | | | suit!
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Yeah, I know the caps you're talking about. They were a bitch
| to
| | get
| | | on.
| | | | I sem to remember a lot of Mooneys having bladders, though.
| | Earlier
| | | ones
| | | | maybe? Maybe wood wing airplanes?
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Bertie
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Good fanboi!
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | Here's another treat!
| |
| |
| | Thukk.
| |
| |
| | Bertie
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| | | | On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| | | |
| | | | No, nothing to do with the sump drains themselves. The sump
| | area
| | | | is a small depession at the bottom of the tank. All water in
| | the
| | | | tank should go there by design. However most tanks have
| small
| | | | imperfections in them where water can get into and stick
| there.
| | | | You do a nice calm walkaround and drain your fuel and then
| when
| | | | you start taxying, the water becomes dislodged and gets into
| a
| | | | feed port. With some designs, this can add up to a lot of
| | water...
| | | |
| | | | Gotchya, gotchya and gotchya, never thought of what you say,
| and
| | | | makes perfect sense.
| | | |
| | | | Tanks I have are "stainless steel" and not bladders, so I
| | | | **think**I have a lesser risk of water settling where it
| | shouldn't
| | | | be but like you say, a good shake would be prudent to better
| | assure
| | | | the water indeed does settle down to the sumps so it gets
| sumped
| | | | out.
| | | |
| | | | Depends on the type, but tin tanks are no kind of insurance
| | against
| | | | it.
| | | Try
| | | | it sometime. Drain some fuel, if there's some water, drain it
| all
| | out
| | | | and then shake the airplane. Pretty sure you;ll get some more.
| | | |
| | | | BTW, you're tanks are more than likely aluminum. I could be
| wrong,
| | | | but
| | | I've
| | | | never seen stainless tanks in any airplane.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Bertie
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| | | Thanks again for repropogating my poast.
| | |
| | |
| | | you'e a hell of a k00k.
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
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| | A HELL of a k00k!
| |
| |
| | Bertie
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| I'm soo proud!
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| Bertie

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| | | Gezellig wrote in news:6jjih3F3lpbtU1
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| | | On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:43:00 -0700 (PDT),
| wrote:
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| | | On Sep 19, 3:28 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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| | | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at
| | | the airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or
| anything
| | | else
| | that
| | | might look strange.
| | |
| | | Definately good one for the checklist. Never thought of this
| and
| | | while I always step back after doing the entire check list for
| a
| | | last once over (long video - part 2, you will see me do this at
| | | the very end) I never thought about skin wrinkles.
| | |
| | | I look and feel for these. What about places you can't either
| touch
| | | or see?
| | |
| | |
| | | Well, you can only do so much, but damage from a hard landing will
| | | usually give some sort of sign on the outside.
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| | | Bertie
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| | | Not quite sure I understand the above??
| | |
| | | Obviously has something to do with the sump jiggies, and mine
| | | are "spring loaded" and pressed in using the outer edge of the
| | | fuel sump diddy rather then a center piece like a Cessna.
| | |
| | | Does the style of sump make any difference?
| | |
| | | -------------------------------------------------------
| | |
| | | It's hard to imagine were every divot, rib, baffle, fitting or
| | | fastener might be in a tank. Although the drain is in the
| | | designed
| low
| | | point, droplets of water can cling to imperfections elsewhere.
| | | Condensation also collects in the tanks unwetted areas, and
| | | doesn't join the mix until splashed.
| | |
| | | Carefully rocking the wings, from the wing tip, sloshes the fuel
| | | around and helps rinse trapped droplets to the drain area.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Awww, you read my poast!
| | |
| | | Good k00k!
| | |
| | | Goog boi!
| | |
| | |
| | | Here's a treat, fjukkktard!
| | |
| | | Smakkkk!
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
| |
| |
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| | Good Kookieboi!
| |
| |
| |
| | Bertie
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| There there k00kieboi
|
|
| Bertie

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| | | | Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| | | | Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice to
| | hear
| | | | input to make me a safer pilot!
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and you
| use
| | | | the checklist.
| | | |
| | | | Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
| | | |
| | | | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at
| the
| | | | airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything
| else
| | | | that might look strange.
| | | | Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a
| good
| | | | shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| | | | this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like
| elongated
| | | | wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly, it
| | will
| | | | get any
| | | fuel
| | | | that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out of
| | it's
| | | | depression and into the sump.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Bertie
| | |
| | | You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor, you
| dumb
| | | ass.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.
| | |
| | | Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have been
| | more
| | | convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.
| | |
| | |
| | | Pretty clear you have your head so firmly up your own butt you're
| | | licking your tonsils from the back.
| | |
| | | Bertie
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| | | | :
| | | |
| | | | Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| | | | Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice to
| | hear
| | | | input to make me a safer pilot!
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and you
| use
| | | | the checklist.
| | | |
| | | | Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
| | | |
| | | | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look at
| the
| | | | airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or anything
| else
| | | | that might look strange.
| | | | Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a
| good
| | | | shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| | | | this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like
| elongated
| | | | wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly, it
| | will
| | | | get any
| | | fuel
| | | | that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out of
| | it's
| | | | depression and into the sump.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Bertie
| | |
| | | You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor, you
| dumb
| | | ass.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.
| | |
| | | Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have been
| | more
| | | convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.
| | |
| | |
| | | Pretty clear you have your head so firmly up your own butt you're
| | | licking your tonsils from the back.
| | |
| | | Bertie
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| | | |
| | | | Not quite sure I understand the above??
| | | |
| | | | Obviously has something to do with the sump jiggies, and mine
| | | | are "spring loaded" and pressed in using the outer edge of
| the
| | | | fuel sump diddy rather then a center piece like a Cessna.
| | | |
| | | | Does the style of sump make any difference?
| | | |
| | | | -------------------------------------------------------
| | | |
| | | | It's hard to imagine were every divot, rib, baffle, fitting
| or
| | | | fastener might be in a tank. Although the drain is in the
| | | | designed
| | low
| | | | point, droplets of water can cling to imperfections
| elsewhere.
| | | | Condensation also collects in the tanks unwetted areas, and
| | | | doesn't join the mix until splashed.
| | | |
| | | | Carefully rocking the wings, from the wing tip, sloshes the
| fuel
| | | | around and helps rinse trapped droplets to the drain area.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Awww, you read my poast!
| | | |
| | | | Good k00k!
| | | |
| | | | Goog boi!
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Here's a treat, fjukkktard!
| | | |
| | | | Smakkkk!
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Bertie
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Good Kookieboi!
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | Bertie
| |
| |
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| |
| | There there k00kieboi
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| | Bertie
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| S' OK k00kieboi.
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| Bertie

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| | | | |
| | | | | Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| | | | | Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice
| to
| | | hear
| | | | | input to make me a safer pilot!
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and
| you
| | use
| | | | | the checklist.
| | | | |
| | | | | Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
| | | | |
| | | | | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look
| at
| | the
| | | | | airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or
| anything
| | else
| | | | | that might look strange.
| | | | | Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a
| | good
| | | | | shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| | | | | this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like
| | elongated
| | | | | wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly,
| it
| | | will
| | | | | get any
| | | | fuel
| | | | | that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out
| of
| | | it's
| | | | | depression and into the sump.
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | | Bertie
| | | |
| | | | You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor,
| you
| | dumb
| | | | ass.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.
| | | |
| | | | Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have
| been
| | | more
| | | | convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Pretty clear you have your head so firmly up your own butt
| you're
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| | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in newsYbBk.11294$Il.1242
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| | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| | | | "Mick" @_#`~#@.^net wrote in news:%l7Bk.10927$Il.3008
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| | | | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| | | | | " wrote in
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| | | | | Today's flight, figured to video how I preflight my plane.
| | | | | Comments here or on the video most welcomed. Always nice
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| | | | | input to make me a safer pilot!
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| | | | | Very Good. i didn;t watch all of it, but it's thorough and
| you
| | use
| | | | | the checklist.
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| | | | | Two thins I'd add to it if they're not already in there.
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| | | | | One, as you walk around, stand back every so often and look
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| | the
| | | | | airframe. You're looking for wrinkles in the skin or
| anything
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| | | | | that might look strange.
| | | | | Second, you should grab the wingtip and give the airplane a
| | good
| | | | | shaking ( after the tiedowns are removed)
| | | | | this does two things. Reveals some kinds of damage, like
| | elongated
| | | | | wing mounting holes and such, and perhaps more importantly,
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| | | will
| | | | | get any
| | | | fuel
| | | | | that might be hiding in the fuel tank away from the sump out
| of
| | | it's
| | | | | depression and into the sump.
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| | | | | Bertie
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| | | | You better start sucking up and acting like a contributor,
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| | dumb
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| | | | Oh yes sir. mr fjukkktard.
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| | | | Should have watched more of the movie though, it would have
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| | | | convincing. Pretty clear you didn't see much it.
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