losing your wings.....

i will always remember the late nights the
the ship was rolling, and we would taxie a
plane across spilt hyd fluid, or water on the
deck ... ocassionally the plane would do the
"slip and slide" with a tractor hooked up or
attached...it would (could) as exciting for a
moment or two...

Mike, what tolerance do they use when they're directing the plane? I
would have thought, say, 5 feet, here and there wouldn't matter (why
direct the nose over the edge and risk the nosewheel hitting the 'kerb'
or whatever it's called?), but your comment makes it sound like they do
it much tighter.

They were so long that it was the only way to get them lined up on the
cat

What sort of air traffic normally goes through that airport? Here in
the NY-Long Island area, there are always complaints about air traffic
in and out of our regional airports. Civic groups looking for any
excuse to hem in these airports would probably have loved to have had
Aviator Webb come down and put on an impromptu show in their backyard.
I'm guessing that if the airport in question here is already under
pressure from surrounding neighborhoods, then their concern against
Webb is sincere.

Mike Kanze wrote:
Almost unbelieveable display of immaturity and selfishness on the part of
this guy. I thought all the Mavericks and Icemen had been flushed from the
system by now.

Did my generation do these stupid stunts? Hell, yes. (Even in A-6s.) Were
our actions any "better" than this young man's? Hell, no.

Good to know that this hot-dog will no longer grace our skies.

This guy really doesn't come off well, does he? Reminds me of the
fictitious "Soup" Campbell from "Punk's War". I always thought that
character was just a bit too much to believe, but now I'm going to have
to go back and re-read that story.

FatKat wrote:
Mike Kanze wrote:

Almost unbelieveable display of immaturity and selfishness on the part of
this guy. I thought all the Mavericks and Icemen had been flushed from the
system by now.

Did my generation do these stupid stunts? Hell, yes. (Even in A-6s.) Were
our actions any "better" than this young man's? Hell, no.

Good to know that this hot-dog will no longer grace our skies.


This guy really doesn't come off well, does he? Reminds me of the
fictitious "Soup" Campbell from "Punk's War". I always thought that
character was just a bit too much to believe, but now I'm going to have
to go back and re-read that story.


There's another story that needs to be remembered:
(just to recap, maybe some of you haven't seen this [unfortunate] "classic" report)

http://www.crm-devel.org/resources/paper/darkblue/darkblue.htm

--
Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)

SeppoP...wow, thats quite a report...some very interesting
observations and thoughts.....This is the "famous" b52
stalling video, i take it.......

~^ beancounter ~^ wrote:
SeppoP...wow, thats quite a report...some very interesting
observations and thoughts.....This is the "famous" b52
stalling video, i take it.......

When I saw that on the History Channel, I think, the commentary
suggested that the cause was malicious compliance, that is, the senior
officer said something like "don't you dare fly over _______," so the
PIC banked smartly and in so doing, departed the envelope.

Am I remembering that correctly?
--
St. John

i think it stated in the report, there was another aircraft
on the active...and the b52 was instructed to do a go
around....

lifted from the report....


--------snip----------------
On the 24th of June 1994, Czar 52, a B-52H assigned to
the 325th Bomb Squadron, 92d Bomb Wing, Fairchild Air
Force Base, WA, launched at approximate 1358 hours Pacific
Daylight Time (PDT), to practice maneuvers for an upcoming
airshow. The aircrew had the planned and briefed a profile, through
the Wing Commander level, that grossly exceeded aircraft and
regulatory limitations. Upon preparing to land at the end of
the practice airshow profile, the crew was required to execute
a "go-around" or missed approach because of another aircraft
on the runway. At mid-field, Czar 52 began a tight 360 degree
left turn around the control tower at only 250 feet altitude above
ground level (AGL). Approximately three quarters of the way
through the turn, the aircraft banked past 90 degrees, stalled,
clipped a power line with the left wing and crashed. Impact
occurred at approximately 1416 hours PDT. There were no
survivors out of a crew of four field grade officers.

that was a wicked fireball...he musta
had quite a bit of fuel on board......how
much fuel did a b52 hold ?... probabally
a few thousand gallons.....