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  #61  
Old October 15th 06, 06:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Logajan
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A Lieberma wrote:
Anybody know of a better newsgroup reader (freeware) then what I am
using? Xnews just drives me nuts sometimes esepcially with word
wrapping.


I use xnews and there are a couple tricks to getting the wrapping you
like. The following assumes the version you are using is the same
version as mine and user settings are similar (most of mine are "factory
default"). Suppose you are composing a post and insert an outrageously
long line like this:

Thisisanoutrageouslylonglinethatjustgoesonandonand onandonandonandonandonandonandonandonandonandIthin kthatisenough.

Obviously as you type such a line it will normally wrap at 72 characters.

At the lower right of the main text window you should see two icons, one
with a blue checkmark on a folder icon and another that is a red arrow
pointing down and then to the left. If you click on the red arrow icon
you toggle word wrap. After typing in a paragraph, try clicking it a few
times. You should see auto-inserted newlines come and go.

Now above the main text window should be several menu options:
[Ext. Edit] [Rewrap] [Undo] [Save] [Send Now!]

With word wrap on, click on [Rewrap] to force permanent insertion of
newlines. Now click on the red arrow on the lower right to turn word
wrap off. Now go back to the long line(s) that got wrapped and manually
delete the newline (move the cursor to the beginning of the last chopped
line and hit backspace). With word wrap off, post the message.

I sure hope that helps.
  #62  
Old October 15th 06, 07:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Peter Duniho
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"Blanche Cohen" wrote in message
...
How is it possible to operate an aircraft without an engine that
is in operation?


Well, for one...operate an aircraft that has no engine at all.

There may be other ways. But I'd think the above would be a sufficient
counter-example for you.

The regulation does NOT say anything about engine operation, nor does the
definition of "operate" per the FAA. It's true that engine start and
aircraft operation are closely related, but the regulation isn't about
engines, it's about aircraft.

Inasmuch as an operation can take place at a different time than engine
start, the former is what the regulation is talking about, not the latter.

Pete


  #63  
Old October 15th 06, 11:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Macklin
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The 727 has a prop. They install it under the tail while
parked.



"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
| Dave Stadt wrote:
| "Emily" wrote in message
| ...
| B A R R Y wrote:
| On 14 Oct 2006 06:18:01 -0700, "Kingfish"

| wrote:
|
| Hmmm. Do you turn on your virtual strobe before you
start your virtual
| engine, so as not to endanger anyone with your
virtual prop?
|
| I'm imagining a computer monitor with a big-ass Whelan
tail strobe on
| top... G
| That thought gives me a headache.
|
| I wonder if he opens his bedroom window and
shouts...CLEAR.........before
| engine start? Or would it be.......VIRTUAL CLEAR?
|
| I'm trying to come up with a smart remark about 737's not
having props,
| but nothing's coming....


  #64  
Old October 15th 06, 12:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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Jim Logajan wrote in
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Now above the main text window should be several menu options: [Ext.
Edit] [Rewrap] [Undo] [Save] [Send Now!]


Thanks Jim,

I think I had tried that and on the second message, the URL got
truncated in a different position.

Instead of using the backspace, I was deleting the last charactor of the
line, and re-inserted the deleted charactor.

No biggie, not normal that I post such long URL's anyway, just hate
nuicance things since I am suppose to be smarter then the computer. :-)

Allen
  #65  
Old October 15th 06, 12:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Blanche Cohen writes:

How is it possible to operate an aircraft without an engine that
is in operation?


You'll have to ask glider pilots about that.

On the other hand, no reply from anyone here will satisfy your questions.


Quotations of regulations need to at least mention the subject of my
queries. Many people seem to believe that their own personal
interpretation of regulations has the same force of law as the
regulations themselves, but that is not the case.

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  #66  
Old October 15th 06, 01:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Don Poitras
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In rec.aviation.student Mxsmanic wrote:
Blanche Cohen writes:


How is it possible to operate an aircraft without an engine that
is in operation?


You'll have to ask glider pilots about that.


On the other hand, no reply from anyone here will satisfy your questions.


Quotations of regulations need to at least mention the subject of my
queries. Many people seem to believe that their own personal
interpretation of regulations has the same force of law as the
regulations themselves, but that is not the case.


Regulations are written to get the maximum meaning in the fewest words.
Sometimes that requires one to make some common sense interpretation of
the words. You seem to want "operation" to mean "when the wheels turn" or
perhaps "when the wheels leave the ground". Most of us think it means
"when the engine starts" (for planes with engines). Arguing over a
definition like this is a common, yet tiring, USENET exercise. It's
especially tiring when the entire thread is posted to multiple groups.
Followups set to RAS.

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  #67  
Old October 15th 06, 02:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Robert Chambers
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It was called "Catch me if you can" and Tom Hanks was in it as the guy
trying to catch the guy.

Emily wrote:
Jim Macklin wrote:

Who really knows. Did you ever see that movie about the guy who
scammed the airlines and a bunch of college girls?

True story.



Which movie is that?

  #68  
Old October 15th 06, 02:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Neil Gould
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Recently, Mxsmanic posted:

Blanche Cohen writes:

How is it possible to operate an aircraft without an engine that
is in operation?


You'll have to ask glider pilots about that.

On the other hand, no reply from anyone here will satisfy your
questions.


Quotations of regulations need to at least mention the subject of my
queries. Many people seem to believe that their own personal
interpretation of regulations has the same force of law as the
regulations themselves, but that is not the case.

The subject of your query was stated:
"I understand that one normally turns on beacons or anticollision lights
whenever an aircraft's engines are running. Is this a regulation, or just
a polite custom?"

Note that YOU were the one that set the parameters that the "aircraft's
engines are running", therefore, the regs quoted directly answered your
original question, as the PIC is always "operating an aircraft" if the
engines are running, and therefore it is not "just a polite custom". Once
again, you choose to argue rather than learn.

Neil



  #69  
Old October 15th 06, 05:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Thomas Borchert
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Emily,

Problem is, he won't look it up on his own.


Problem is, you still answer! This newsgroup is now mainly filled with
longwinded discussions on a simmer's questions about reality. Sad!

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  #70  
Old October 15th 06, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Gene Seibel
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It's not real. It's not the same as flying. There's no pressures on the
seat of the pants, or feeling of movement, or wind noise. I don't do
well on MSFS either. But why would I want to? It'll only get you from
Point A to Point A.
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Because I fly, I envy no one.



Mxsmanic wrote:
Emily writes:

Maybe I'll do that tonight!!!!! Except I can't play MSFS without
crashing it anyway, so that's probably a bad experiment.


What do you find difficult about flying in MSFS?

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