Thielert (Diesel Engines)

Thomas Borchert wrote in
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Al,

So, how would you arrange a "limp home" mode that avoided a low volts
problem, with electronic fuel injectors?

If you go to mechanical injectors, you lose the advantages
inherent in
the electronic ones.


Ah, thank you!

Of course, as Bertie puts it, one could theoretically build
alternative injectors in,


Where did I say that you uberfjukktard?


Bertie

I'm never going to agree to a Diesel in an airplane unless they fix this
nonsense about it stopping when the tanks are empty.

Do you want to bet on such a flawed concept?

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David Lesher wrote in news:fp4ipr$q92$2
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I'm never going to agree to a Diesel in an airplane unless they fix this
nonsense about it stopping when the tanks are empty.

Which tank?


the liquid or the electron one?


bertie

On Feb 16, 4:53*am, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
I see your point and I think it's a good one. As I said before, I
smell the rat of marketing...

Cheers

You keep want to blame Marketing. Sure they may have said we need to
have an easy to use FADEC system but it was the engineers that decided
not to have the limp home mode.

Interesting. Why would engineers decide that?

Cheers

Peter wrote in
:


Thomas Borchert wrote

Why is it that each and every innovation in GA is met by people
spouting OWTs and made-up speculation, when a minute or two of simple
research would provide the facts? What picture does that paint of the
pilot population and their "hangar talk"? How about a simple "I don't
know and that's why I keep quiet on this" instead of spouting made-up
negatives? Sorry, but this is really annoying.

You need to calm down Thomas before jumping on people like this.

Dunno, I kinda like him this way. Pounding on his keyboard, teeth gritted,
veins standing out on his neck. Standing on tiptoe, even though seated, his
leg muscles trembling. It's a good look for him.


Bertie

On Feb 16, 6:28*am, Thomas Borchert
wrote:
. And I still
fail to see how "mechanical" would somehow inherently be better or more
relaible than "electric". In fact, a common rail diesel has a much simpler
mechanical design than one with mechanical injectors - it is much less prone
to failure in that respect.


I don't think that's true. Look at the reliability of non-common rail
(old) diesels. Very high injection pressures give better atomization
but the piezos and nozzles take a hammering and ceramics do break.

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 16, 4:53 am, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
I see your point and I think it's a good one. As I said before, I
smell the rat of marketing...
Cheers
You keep want to blame Marketing. Sure they may have said we need to
have an easy to use FADEC system but it was the engineers that decided
not to have the limp home mode.

Interesting. Why would engineers decide that?

Cheers

Why would marketing?

Peter,

When you have calmed down, speak PRIVATELY to a few Diamond/Thielert
owners. I have.

Thanks, I have, too.

There is some way to go before Thielert have a reliable engine. I am
sure they will get there eventually, but they aren't there yet.

I agree completely. And I never said anything to the contrary. That's
not what I'm getting upset about.

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Thomas Borchert wrote in
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Peter,

When you have calmed down, speak PRIVATELY to a few Diamond/Thielert
owners. I have.

Thanks, I have, too.

There is some way to go before Thielert have a reliable engine. I am
sure they will get there eventually, but they aren't there yet.

I agree completely. And I never said anything to the contrary. That's
not what I'm getting upset about.


Calm down then, do something relaxing. Invade the Sudetenland. You'll feel
better.

Bertie

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In particular regard to this installation? I have no problem with computer
governed engines, once tey aren't reliant on th ecomputer to run which
isn't the case with any other engine I know of.


Can you actually name any common rail diesel (in any application) that will
run without the computer?

Or, are you in MX mode?

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