Landing without flaps

buttman wrote:
On Mar 4, 5:30 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:

Don't flatter yourself. I could care less if you are a CFI or not other
than establishing that if you are, you're certainly not worth the title.
If you have the rating, as I seem to see below, this simply verifies
that the system allowed you through.

You're the one who has been harping on me for the past few months
trying to get me to "prove" I'm really a CFI. I finally do and you
blow it off. Thats basically what I expected.

Your posts attesting to how you handle the rating are more than enough
for my use. How you profess to be teaching your students is much more
revealing than whether or not you actually are a CFI.
Be advised that I intend using your online personna of "Buttman" and
some of your posting as a negative example other CFI's on how NOT to
instruct.

You realize I've posted maybe 15 times in my entire 3 year Usenet
career on the subject of flight instructing? I'd LOOOVE to hear your
case against me.

So you're with a CFI applicant. Today is the day where you give him
the "how not to be a CFI" talk. You go over to your computer, load up
Usenet, and begin to show this person all the horrors internet user
Buttman has brought upon the profession. I really don't even care
about specifics, but I'd really like to know what kind of things you'd
say.

Based on your posting here, you'd probably just make some blanket
claims "this guy is a horrible instructor", the try to justify it
solely by the virtue of the fact you have some achievements, rather
than any kind of logic or reasoning, "This is true because I've been
in the industry for 200 years and I've worked with blah blah blah".
I've not read a single thing you've posted here where you've made ANY
attempt to justify your points other than with your signature file.


I'm sure this means little to you From my email however,it apparently
means something to others who frequent this forum.

Don't flatter yourself.

I have nothing against you personally. I don't even know you. You don't
use your actual name and the stage personna you've chosen souns like it
came from a 2 year old.

I just think your approach to flight instruction can use some
"amplification" so to speak. A lot of us spend a great deal of time on
these groups trying to help people learn to fly PROPERLY.
Every now and then someone like yourself comes along and starts posting
here in some "authorative manner". I simply want every student here to
know that for whatever they want to take out of it either way, I for one
don't care for the things you have to say concerning flying and flight
instruction and in fact believe that some of what you profess to do with
students is in my opinion anyway, downright dangerous.
That's all there is to it my friend. Just a vast difference in opinion
between you and me as to how flight instruction should be performed.
How people on the forum take this is strictly up to each individual who
reads what each of us has to say.
Nothing personal at all. I just wouldn't fly with you that's all.



--
Dudley Henriques

On Mar 4, 6:18 pm, Dan wrote:
On Mar 4, 8:14 pm, buttman wrote:



On Mar 4, 5:30 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:

Don't flatter yourself. I could care less if you are a CFI or not other
than establishing that if you are, you're certainly not worth the title.
If you have the rating, as I seem to see below, this simply verifies
that the system allowed you through.

You're the one who has been harping on me for the past few months
trying to get me to "prove" I'm really a CFI. I finally do and you
blow it off. Thats basically what I expected.

Your posts attesting to how you handle the rating are more than enough
for my use. How you profess to be teaching your students is much more
revealing than whether or not you actually are a CFI.
Be advised that I intend using your online personna of "Buttman" and
some of your posting as a negative example other CFI's on how NOT to
instruct.

You realize I've posted maybe 15 times in my entire 3 year Usenet
career on the subject of flight instructing? I'd LOOOVE to hear your
case against me.

So you're with a CFI applicant. Today is the day where you give him
the "how not to be a CFI" talk. You go over to your computer, load up
Usenet, and begin to show this person all the horrors internet user
Buttman has brought upon the profession. I really don't even care
about specifics, but I'd really like to know what kind of things you'd
say.

Based on your posting here, you'd probably just make some blanket
claims "this guy is a horrible instructor", the try to justify it
solely by the virtue of the fact you have some achievements, rather
than any kind of logic or reasoning, "This is true because I've been
in the industry for 200 years and I've worked with blah blah blah".
I've not read a single thing you've posted here where you've made ANY
attempt to justify your points other than with your signature file.

I'm sure this means little to you From my email however,it apparently
means something to others who frequent this forum.

Don't flatter yourself.

Dude... you might be Bill Kershner reincarnated, but I'd be tempted to
stall-spin it in if I had to listen to you blather on in the right
seat of a 152.

.

The gallant Dan rolls in wearing his finest white knight armor to
defend the honor of his fair maiden Dudly. How touching.

On Mar 4, 6:57 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:

I have nothing against you personally. I don't even know you. You don't
use your actual name and the stage personna you've chosen souns like it
came from a 2 year old.

You think I don't know that? I picked this name for that very reason.
I don't play that name game crap. It don't matter what name appears
above my posts, the meaning stays the same.

Just a vast difference in opinion
between you and me as to how flight instruction should be performed.

You're darn right. If a student comes to me asking about somethi9ng,
I'll do my best to explain it to him in terms he or she can
understand. I'll never just bluntly say "This is how it is" without
any kind of reasoning, which is the technique you seem to prefer. I've
asked you how many times now to point out what exactly you find so
appaling about my ability to be an instructor? All I ever get from you
is "You are downright dangerous", "You damage this profession", "I
would never fly with you", these are very loaded words to be using
without any kind of backup whatsoever.

You don't post here because you care about safety. You don't post here
because you care about instructing. You don't even post here because
you care about aviation. You post here so you can call out people like
myself on weak bases such as my freaking internet chitchat handle.
Your existence here has never, and will never be anything more than a
huge ego stroke.

On Mar 4, 9:14 pm, buttman wrote:

Dude... you might be Bill Kershner reincarnated, but I'd be tempted to
stall-spin it in if I had to listen to you blather on in the right
seat of a 152.

The gallant Dan rolls in wearing his finest white knight armor to
defend the honor of his fair maiden Dudly. How touching.

I was talking about you -- not Dudley. I don't know Dudley, but I've
read some of his posts and he seems reasonable, but that doesn't mean
I'm signing up for the DH School O' Aerospace.

In your case, I think you spend far too much time typing defensive
tomes.

And the "buttman" thing gives me the hibbly-jibblies.


Dan

Dan wrote:
On Mar 4, 7:37 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
I've learned plenty.
Now here's an ambiguous comment :-) Am I the bad guy or the good guy in
this novel? :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

I don't have affinity for folks named "buttman." Talk about ambiguous.

The only Dudley I ever knew was Do-Right, and as a Mountie, he was a
good chap.

Dan



Know that one well. My wife changed it to Dudley Dowrong though :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

On Mar 5, 2:11*pm, Dan wrote:
On Mar 4, 7:37 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:



I've learned plenty.

Now here's an ambiguous *comment :-) Am I the bad guy or the good guy in
this novel? :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

I don't have affinity for folks named "buttman." Talk about ambiguous.


He's overweight so perhaps it's appropriate.

Cheers

buttman wrote:
On Mar 4, 5:30 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:

Don't flatter yourself. I could care less if you are a CFI or not other
than establishing that if you are, you're certainly not worth the title.
If you have the rating, as I seem to see below, this simply verifies
that the system allowed you through.

You're the one who has been harping on me for the past few months
trying to get me to "prove" I'm really a CFI. I finally do and you
blow it off. Thats basically what I expected.

Your posts attesting to how you handle the rating are more than enough
for my use. How you profess to be teaching your students is much more
revealing than whether or not you actually are a CFI.
Be advised that I intend using your online personna of "Buttman" and
some of your posting as a negative example other CFI's on how NOT to
instruct.

You realize I've posted maybe 15 times in my entire 3 year Usenet
career on the subject of flight instructing? I'd LOOOVE to hear your
case against me.

So you're with a CFI applicant. Today is the day where you give him
the "how not to be a CFI" talk. You go over to your computer, load up
Usenet, and begin to show this person all the horrors internet user
Buttman has brought upon the profession. I really don't even care
about specifics, but I'd really like to know what kind of things you'd
say.

Based on your posting here, you'd probably just make some blanket
claims "this guy is a horrible instructor", the try to justify it
solely by the virtue of the fact you have some achievements, rather
than any kind of logic or reasoning, "This is true because I've been
in the industry for 200 years and I've worked with blah blah blah".
I've not read a single thing you've posted here where you've made ANY
attempt to justify your points other than with your signature file.


I'm sure this means little to you From my email however,it apparently
means something to others who frequent this forum.

Don't flatter yourself.
You take care now. :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

buttman wrote:
On Mar 4, 6:57 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:

I have nothing against you personally. I don't even know you. You don't
use your actual name and the stage personna you've chosen souns like it
came from a 2 year old.

You think I don't know that? I picked this name for that very reason.
I don't play that name game crap. It don't matter what name appears
above my posts, the meaning stays the same.

Just a vast difference in opinion
between you and me as to how flight instruction should be performed.

You're darn right. If a student comes to me asking about somethi9ng,
I'll do my best to explain it to him in terms he or she can
understand. I'll never just bluntly say "This is how it is" without
any kind of reasoning, which is the technique you seem to prefer. I've
asked you how many times now to point out what exactly you find so
appaling about my ability to be an instructor? All I ever get from you
is "You are downright dangerous", "You damage this profession", "I
would never fly with you", these are very loaded words to be using
without any kind of backup whatsoever.

You don't post here because you care about safety. You don't post here
because you care about instructing. You don't even post here because
you care about aviation. You post here so you can call out people like
myself on weak bases such as my freaking internet chitchat handle.
Your existence here has never, and will never be anything more than a
huge ego stroke.

Right as usual. :-))))))))))))))))))))))

--
Dudley Henriques

WingFlaps wrote:
On Mar 5, 2:11 pm, Dan wrote:
On Mar 4, 7:37 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:



I've learned plenty.
Now here's an ambiguous comment :-) Am I the bad guy or the good guy in
this novel? :-))
--
Dudley Henriques
I don't have affinity for folks named "buttman." Talk about ambiguous.


He's overweight so perhaps it's appropriate.

Cheers

You noticed that too huh??? :-)))) Well, I guess the extra weight helps
to get that ole airplane down again on the remaining runway when you
pull that ole mixture back on a student right after rotation :-))))

--
Dudley Henriques

So, I figured I would sift through the gems the buttman has posted and
see if he deserves the calumny that hovers about like so many flies.

The evidence mounts, but this one seals the deal: "its the military,
they do whatever they want"

Idiot, arise.


Dan