Let's move on

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:xr4qk.247791$TT4.121438@attbi_s22...
My killfile has plenty of folks in it and room for plenty more. It
amazes me that the NG is still dealing with this petty annoyance.

Have I earned a spot in other's killfiles? Who cares? Life will go on.

While I agree with you, I'm still deeply saddened by the turn of events.

I bet you are, braggart.

It's not your personal spam paradise anymore, is it?

And most of your suck buddies have disappeared, haven't they?

Sad for you, good for the group.

Agreed. Are there any other aircraft that you can steer on the ground
with
the yoke?

Just about every airplane use for primary instruction when taxied for the
first time by a new student (until the instructor shows them how to use
their feet :-))))

ROTFL! For sure...

But I honestly can't think of any other plane that have
yoke-ground-steering, can you, Dudley?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Much of his design innovations have become standard in all planes (an
electric starter, all-metal construction, etc.) and were quite modern for
the time -- but much of them did NOT become standard, meaning that
learning
to fly in an Ercoupe is pretty much a developmental dead-end. You'll
never
know how to fly a plane with rudder pedals if you train in one that only
has
a brake pedal on the floor!


That is what I thought at first as well, but then I got to thinking: I
learned to drive in an automatic, and later learned to drive a stick.

True, but IMHO the choice of rudder pedals (versus none) are a bit more
important to an airplane than the choice of stick shift (versus none) is to
a car. Learning to use a primary flight control properly could one day be
the difference between life and death, whereas manual shifting versus an
automatic transmission is more of a personal performance choice.

On the other hand, if all you want to do is fly, and you have no intention
of buying up the performance ladder, who really cares if you know how to fly
anything beyond an Ercoupe? It's all about your personal choice, and if I
were at a different point in my life right now, I might be very happy to
only fly the Ercoupe.

In any event, I do not have the guts to buy a plane right now; I am
notoriously cheap (which makes me a REAL genius for taking up flying).

Well, "cheap" and "flying" don't usually go together -- but the Ercoupe is
about as economical as it gets. I figure I can fly the 'Coupe about four
hours for about the same cost as flying my Pathfinder (with its 6-cylinder
0-540) for one hour. That's a HUGE difference, and is why I've been flying
the 'Coupe almost every day after work.

Well, that, and it's just so damned fun to fly! There's nothing like
"driving around the sky" with your arm on the window-sill, like an old '48
Buick...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
Agreed. Are there any other aircraft that you can steer on the
ground with
the yoke?

Just about every airplane use for primary instruction when taxied for
the first time by a new student (until the instructor shows them how
to use their feet :-))))

ROTFL! For sure...

But I honestly can't think of any other plane that have
yoke-ground-steering, can you, Dudley?

Google the "General Skyfarer". Or check this link out:

http://books.google.com/books?id=FE5...sult#PPA151,M1

Jay Honeck wrote:
Agreed. Are there any other aircraft that you can steer on the
ground with
the yoke?

Just about every airplane use for primary instruction when taxied for
the first time by a new student (until the instructor shows them how
to use their feet :-))))

ROTFL! For sure...

But I honestly can't think of any other plane that have
yoke-ground-steering, can you, Dudley?
I'll tell you the truth. I think the final count for me for types flown
was around 50. I have never flown anything, even experimental and
prototype single engine that steered on the ground with a yoke except
the Coupe.
Some of the big jets use a small "tiller wheel" within specific
parameters for taxiing but aside from one flight I made in a DC8 as a
guest of the airline's chief pilot (actually managed the approach and
landing at Fairbanks without bending it :-) the Ercoupe was the only one.

--
Dudley Henriques

How interesting that two of our most outspoken quitters for POA, are now
back with us but feeding a well known troll.

Geez, I wonder why????

Google the "General Skyfarer". Or check this link out:

Cool! Basically a high-wing Ercoupe. It was even developed at the same
time (circa 1941)...and ended up being owned by a company in Lemars, Iowa,
of all places.

Thanks for that, Jim. Amazing what you can find on the internet.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

While I agree with you, I'm still deeply saddened by the turn of events.

I bet you are, braggart.

"Braggart"? This is a piloting group, my friend. We talk about airplanes
here, owning and flying them. If you think that's "bragging", may I suggest
you visit some other newsgroups that are, perhaps, more sensitive to your
emotional needs?

It's not your personal spam paradise anymore, is it?

I don't do spam. Never have, never will. In fact, I would support the
death penalty for spammers.

Members of this group (in its heyday) were directly responsible for the
direction we took (in 2002) of buying an old hotel and converting it into a
pilots' lodging paradise. At virtually every step, I relied on advice from
this group WRT appointments, services offered, fees -- you name it, this
group was instrumental in the development of the Alexis Park Inn & Suites.

Yet another indication of how far this group has fallen. Imagine, once upon
a time, this group actually helped to *create* something cool...

And most of your suck buddies have disappeared, haven't they?

Didn't ever notice anyone like that here -- but almost everyone else has
sure gone away, thanks to a handful of bitter, surly folks like you. It's a
shame.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck writes:

On the other hand, if all you want to do is fly, and you have no intention
of buying up the performance ladder, who really cares if you know how to fly
anything beyond an Ercoupe? It's all about your personal choice, and if I
were at a different point in my life right now, I might be very happy to
only fly the Ercoupe.

Can you obtain a PPL without knowing how to use rudder pedals?

On Aug 19, 4:09*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Jay Honeck writes:
On the other hand, if all you want to do is fly, and you have no intention
of buying up the performance ladder, who really cares if you know how to fly
anything beyond an Ercoupe? *It's all about your personal choice, and if I
were at a different point in my life right now, I might be very happy to
only fly the Ercoupe.

Can you obtain a PPL without knowing how to use rudder pedals?

I'd say yes but it's really bad idea for getting additional type
ratings efficiently. Can you imagine trying to land a tail dragger
without any experience of using a rudder? Lord knows I'm finding it
difficult enough and I have some part of my brain trained to use the
rudder already...

Cheers